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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  It's silly to say that any interpretation is equally likely, including satire. Obviously some meanings must be more likely.

  How do you arrive at that conclusion?

  Do YOU honestly think that the writer of 1 John intended to make a statement that superseded all previous statements about God's nature and to declare all God's actions to be loving?

  Why not? A lot of the Gospel is attempting to supersede prior writings. It happens all the time. So does satire. How many people think that Machiavelli was was serious when he wrote "The Prince" but it too was satire.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince#Interpretation_of_The_Prince_as_political_satire_or_as_deceit

  Because I just don't see how that could have been intended.

  See above...
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Viviane

  God wants us in a position of not understanding his full purpose in order to show our heart condition: proud and haughty, or humble?

  And he can't do that without allow 250K people to die just to keep some people confused? God is not very bright. A cliffhanger ending on Sherlock would be better.

  Why does "God is love" have to be taken as a statement that God is composed entirely of love and all his actions are loving?

  The question is whether or not there is any reason NOT to take it that way. Once your position is "there are other ways to look at it", we can say it's all just satire and it means the opposite.
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  What is it with teens/adults and dependency on everyone else?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen a lot of this lately here in the uk, where teens and young adults still depend on their parents when they live away from home.. some just don't seem able to earn enough.

  some are on benefits.

  some earn more than me and are in debt.

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  You can't prepare people to be an adult by controlling them until they move out. Some people here are not good at the parenting.
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  Religion VS Atheism and the decline of ethics and morals

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being back in college after leaving the borg, one of the required classes for a degree at my college is ethics.

  after learning a few things, i am curious where morality and ethics is heading for the future of humanity.

  i wish i could find the source again, but several weeks ago i recalled reading a transcript of a very old document that talked about when christianity was being spread in europe, it brought civility and community.

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  Viviane

  Those who are not particularly rational, emotional or spiritual don't like to be at the bottom of the piramyd where they belong

  Nothing like a dose of "I'm better than you because I have religion" BS to start my day....
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  Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation-Evolution Debate Here: V

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  in case some are interested and can't find it...... http://debatelive.org.

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  Bill Nye needs to find a job or something better to do with his life. What kind of scientist waste his time debating other people's beliefs. We have thousands of problems (world hunger, pollution, renewable energy, lack of clean water, cancer, etc.) in this world that needs to be solved and if Bill was a real scientist he'd be in a lab or somewhere conducting research in attempt to solve at least one of them.

  And we need science to solve those problems, not teaching children and adults ridiculous beliefs. Bill Nye's work is trying to make that happen.
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  Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation-Evolution Debate Here: V

  by mind blown in

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  in case some are interested and can't find it...... http://debatelive.org.

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  Pretty sure the Bible predicted that, cantleave. He didn't attempt to answer anything, just "The Bible says...." over and over and over and over and over.
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  Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation-Evolution Debate Here: V

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  in case some are interested and can't find it...... http://debatelive.org.

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  Bill Nye absolutely wiped the floor with Ken Ham. All Ken had was "But the Bible...."
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  Live debate tonight: Bill Nye (evolution) vs Ken Ham (creationism)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. social
  2. current

  i thought i'd share since i figured some on this forum would be interested being that the same topic has been debated numerous times here.

  http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/03/why-im-debating-the-science-guy-about-creationism/?hpt=hp_t2.

  i wish i was able to see it but i'm assuming i'll be able to catch it on youtube or transcripts.

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  JW history buffs questions for you.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading the book 'time at hand' by russell dated 1889 volume 2. in the book russell says that the 'day of the lord',' day of trouble' started in 1873.. i thought he was with boubor on the time of jesus so called start of his heavely kingdom to be 1878, of course after boubor prodicted 1878 as the year for armagedon and it didnt happen so he substituted "his presence" instead.

  but this book seems to state other wise??

  please advise.. also after russell's perdiction of armagedon in 1914-15 did happen, didnt rutherford say some thing to the effect that 'yes the time had ended the gentile times, and were now in a new age and thats why that generation would not die etc.

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  Religion VS Atheism and the decline of ethics and morals

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being back in college after leaving the borg, one of the required classes for a degree at my college is ethics.

  after learning a few things, i am curious where morality and ethics is heading for the future of humanity.

  i wish i could find the source again, but several weeks ago i recalled reading a transcript of a very old document that talked about when christianity was being spread in europe, it brought civility and community.

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  Viviane

  What I teach my kids:

  - Critical thinking

  - Be nice to others, help out if you can

  - Don't be a bully, never be cruel

  - Live your life and make it a good one. I don't care what they do for a career, but be happy in your life.