Posts by Viviane

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Jesus had to die? Really?

by punkofnice in

i admit i no longer believe in god and holy books.. thinking of the made up 'universal sovereignty' thing, surely if god existed in the way the holy books describe him then he could have thought of something better than humankind suffering thousands of years and the slaughter of jesus?.

couldn't god have said: 'well, satan is a very naughty boy but you all know how great i am so we can end it now.

i will lovingly kill satan and his mates and that's that.

Viviane

I forget what pub. that was in.

I'll be in a pub later today, I'll let you know which one.

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IS THIS A STUPID QUESTION?

by Terry in

the divine plan of the ages and the sacred secret of christ depends on the shedding of jesus' blood for mankind.. here is a question of logic which baffles me.. what if everybody who heard jesus preach thought it was nice?

what if they hadn't been threatened and merely shrugged and walked away or joined his merry band of disciples?.

he'd not have made religious enemies with the jews.

Viviane

Nope, it's not. It's just one of the many many many illogical inconsistencies that emerge when you try to think about the Bible in a rational framework.

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Jesus had to die? Really?

by punkofnice in

i admit i no longer believe in god and holy books.. thinking of the made up 'universal sovereignty' thing, surely if god existed in the way the holy books describe him then he could have thought of something better than humankind suffering thousands of years and the slaughter of jesus?.

couldn't god have said: 'well, satan is a very naughty boy but you all know how great i am so we can end it now.

i will lovingly kill satan and his mates and that's that.

Viviane

People that worship God are like an abused wife claiming it's her fault she gets hit.

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Took my son (5 yrs) shooting for his first time.

by dazed but not confused in

i went with my neighbor to an outdoor shooting range in the pawnee national grasslands in colorado.

its about 2 hours northeast of denver.

it was awesome.

Viviane

Self-defense is not a good reason.... does that mean you will take responsibility for other's defense? Or pay the fees and installation of a good security systems? Pay for lock upgrades and security doors and windows?

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Jesus had to die? Really?

by punkofnice in

i admit i no longer believe in god and holy books.. thinking of the made up 'universal sovereignty' thing, surely if god existed in the way the holy books describe him then he could have thought of something better than humankind suffering thousands of years and the slaughter of jesus?.

couldn't god have said: 'well, satan is a very naughty boy but you all know how great i am so we can end it now.

i will lovingly kill satan and his mates and that's that.

Viviane

God will accomplish His Will one way or the other.

Christians keep saying that and it keeps not happening...

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Jesus had to die? Really?

by punkofnice in

i admit i no longer believe in god and holy books.. thinking of the made up 'universal sovereignty' thing, surely if god existed in the way the holy books describe him then he could have thought of something better than humankind suffering thousands of years and the slaughter of jesus?.

couldn't god have said: 'well, satan is a very naughty boy but you all know how great i am so we can end it now.

i will lovingly kill satan and his mates and that's that.

Viviane

Christians are about 1/3 of the worlds population. Not much of a victory...

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Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

by prologos in

it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

Viviane

Tiger, not a lie, I never said I was 90, but men do not lose their potency as soon as you think.

Yeah, you did. Caedes already posted it.

vivian, most of the numbers on YOUR chart are identical we have been working with for decades. they are in the public domain, can not be stolen.

I know. Why wouldn't you post post one that was accurate? Why did you refuse to admit I had already done it until I did it again?

let every one look at them: 10 solar system orbits,-- starting at .4, all doubling in distance, but gap never smaller than .3 or bigger than 9.6

10? Which 10 are you looking at? And, so what? That's not predicted by anything, they DO vary by more than 5% of what the Bode-Titius hypothesis sais they would (unlike what you claimed).

Basically, every claim you have made has turned out to be wrong and as you get caught, you simply retrofit your claim to and act as if that was what you predicted all along.

You are dreadfully dishonest.

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Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

by prologos in

it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

Viviane

I did not steal your math/chart, I used it can you not see flattery when it stares you in the face?

You got it wrong until I showed you and then acted as if you had it all along without crediting the source. That's the same as stealing. Taking the work of others without credit isn't flattery, it's lazy at best and stealing at worst. Why should I thank you for taking what's mine as yours?

hey, 10 balls lined up in amazing array start at the sun and double away.

You keep saying that, but every piece of data (including those you stole) show that's not the case.

of course, ladies have more balls then men, are not all pentential ova present in my 2 year old daughter? coming on later at every lunation?

You claimed to be 90 and now claim to have a 2 year old daughter? Unlikely. Also, stop talking about her cycle even if it is true. It's just creepy and weird.

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I made my daughters cry last night.....

by Ugottabefresh in

...when i told them i didn't believe anymore.

they cried like i'd never seen before.

my oldest, 10, pleaded with me that she'd do anything to get me to keep going to meetings ("i'll get a's on my report card!").

Viviane

I don't have any idea what you now believe

but if you could substiute what they know now with some new religious

ideas, it would so much better for them.

Lying to kids doesn't ever seem to be good for them. Why replace one lie with another?

All this may sound silly to you, I do not know,

but children need a spiritual hope and a God centered world view, you can't

just go in a tell them.

Children want to be loved and not lied to just because adult are too weak to tell them the truth.

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Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

by prologos in

it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

Viviane

vivian, I can not be 100% wrong when your own charts [ thank you], show Titius bode is 80% right, from Mercury to Uranus

Correct, you could not be 100% more wrong.

and my modification makes it 1005 right by applying a different ruler to the same UNCHANGING DATA. and the augmented rules are: minimum orbital difference is .3 AU a 3 in the bode scheme.and 9.6 AU maximum difference in orbit diameter.

Sorry, this doesn't even approach making sense. Can you rephrase in actual sentences without completely changing what you wrote in the past? The numbers you give now match the math I corrected for you but still aren't a law because they are 100% descriptive, not predictive. Nor do they explain your failure to read a chart.

while Pluto fits the the doubling outer orbit reach of Bode

No. No it doesn't You can't just say it, you still have to show math, baby!

while Pluto fits the the doubling outer orbit reach of Bode

Observation and me showing you how to do math, so far. You weren't even close to that prior and the Bode-Titius hypothesis was off by >95%.

!AU=99 light seconds .3 AU= 149.5 light seconds 1/2 of the solar 5 minutes pulsation, the small orbit diameter difference.

It's actually jus t over 149.7 light seconds. You're getting closer, though!

Balls in solar array. spaced out in doubling distances. conforming all the laws these balls.

Still a negative on that. Bode-Titius is still a giant fail and your math even more. However, if it help you to learn, please keep stealing mine! So far my lady balls are still beating yours!