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  Funeral for an atheist

  by Stealth in

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  2. friends

  99% of all funerals that i have attended have been the wt version, where they preach about the resurrection into paradise and say little about the person who passed other than they were loyal to jah.

  the other 1% catholic for grandparents.. now that i consider myself an atheist, i got to wondering what do atheists plan for when they die?.

  if you are a non-believer what are your plans for when you die?

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  Viviane

  if possible donate my bones to the Church of the bones like here in Brno.

  Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

  That is pretty cool. I suddenly have a new plan....
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  AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

  by raymond frantz in

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  aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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  Viviane

  Maybe I am just lazy, but the most I ever bother with JW stuff (other than posting here) is to deal with my JW ex and when they came around my door two days ago. This type of activism seems to be the work of the obsessed and desperate.

  I actually got a JW to admit say evolution was true and the other one to say that maybe God didn't always exist. Maybe I'll post a thread about it. It was quite an interesting conversation.
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  Funeral for an atheist

  by Stealth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  99% of all funerals that i have attended have been the wt version, where they preach about the resurrection into paradise and say little about the person who passed other than they were loyal to jah.

  the other 1% catholic for grandparents.. now that i consider myself an atheist, i got to wondering what do atheists plan for when they die?.

  if you are a non-believer what are your plans for when you die?

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  Viviane

  Thanks! Once I'm dead, my body is no more me than an empty house is the lives it contained. I'd rather anyone who chooses to remember me do it with a party and tell silly stories than mourn.
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  My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.

  following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.

  i used only watchtower publications in my research.

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  Viviane

  Rather than DF you, the smart move would have been to invite you to be part of the writing and research committee.
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  Funeral for an atheist

  by Stealth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  99% of all funerals that i have attended have been the wt version, where they preach about the resurrection into paradise and say little about the person who passed other than they were loyal to jah.

  the other 1% catholic for grandparents.. now that i consider myself an atheist, i got to wondering what do atheists plan for when they die?.

  if you are a non-believer what are your plans for when you die?

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  Viviane

  Sell my body and use the money to throw a party.

  Or toss it in a river and use the saved money to throw a party.

  Or offer it up to a necrophiliac for cash and use the money to throw a party.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses Psycopaths?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking that jws display an organizationally officially promoted form of thinking that makes them psycopaths!.

  what i mean is, any person who enjoyed reading and leaning about past gruesome deaths, or who justified such things as being normal or acceptable would be deemed to be dangerous to society...a psychopath.

  (by this i am refferring to the content of the bible of course).

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  Viviane

  (Rebel8 - love your posts - but I cannot agree that JW's can be cured. [That was also the fantasy of The Governor and Hershel in Walking Dead])

  There are plenty of well adjusted ex-JWs here.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Viviane

  Here is a video about dinosaurs existing with men.

  And it shows the 800 year old Budist temple in Cambodia with a stegasauris carved in stone.

  It shows a carving of unknown age and origin that you are interpreting to be a stegosaurus.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Viviane

  The parts that are untestable or unprovable.

  Which parts do you think are untestable and unproveable? Be specific as to why.

  Any part that does not follow science and the scientific method specifically,

  All forms of pseudo science.

  Please, be specific. I can't read your mind as to what you think is psuedo science or what parts of science aren't following the scientific method.

  What they used to call theoretical.

  What does that even mean?

  thought the carvig was from an 800 year old Buddist temple.

  It may well be.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Viviane

  It looks like a dinosaur. They did not have pictures 800 years ago.

  It looks like modern representations of dinosaurs. You've never seen one so you really can't say it looks like a dinosaur. Also, what makes you think that particular carving is 800 years old?

  There is a lot of evidence that man existed with dinosaurs.

  They did not use the word dinosaur until recently.

  They used to be called dragons for one.

  In what way is that evidence?

  It is very possible that a small part of biology is wrong and parts of all the other unscientific sciences are wrong.

  The parts that are unscientific could be wrong and the parts that are scientific and follow the scientific method are right.

  Which parts are you suggesting are unscientific and wrong? Be specific as to why.
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  Parousia (again)

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i noticed this during the wt study on sunday.. 1 cor 15:23: "but each one in his own proper order: christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the christ during his presence.

  "the greek word for presence is "parousia", which needs no explanation here as to how wtbts views this word versus the rest of the world.. what i noticed was the striking contradiction made just a few verses later.. 1 cor 15:51,52: "look!

  i tell you a sacred secret: we will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.

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  Viviane

  The sudden "depature" or rapture or 'snaching away" of Christians in not a new teaching. The rapture is taught in the NT and was believed by early Christians:

  Try reading what people write. I wrote that the current fundamentalist view of the rapture is a modern invention. Neither of those people you quote (one of them out of context, BTW), says anything like what the modern whacko crazy Fundamentalist Jesus freaks believe.