Posts by Viviane

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

Viviane

And yes, there was a recent court case where the KKK won a lawsuit against a bakery that wouldn't bake them a cake because it offended the owner's religious beliefs. Google it. That is a specious (that means the argument/statement sounds reasonable but is actually woo (yes, I stole Viviane’s word – deal with it) with a bow on it) argument.

First, that's not my word. You've taken what I rightfully stole;)

Secondly, wow, I had not realized the KKK won that lawsuit. On the one hand, that amazes me. On the other hand, it was won in Georgia, where non-discriminatory Jesus always loses to KKK Jesus, so I am not THAT surprised.

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Can the world condition be worse than this?

by abiather in

the innocent civilians being attacked is the norm of the day.

attacking hospitals too are happening frequently.

now schools being attacked is becoming a regular affair (last of its kind massacred 150 children in peshawar on december 16, 2014)..

Viviane

Wording on alcohol is just a reproduction of what Traffic Police has put up on many High Ways!

So? Seat belt laws and car design have, over the years, dramatically lowered the death rate from driving. I just proved the world is getting better.

Also, since you included no sources with your numbers, I'm afraid they are dismissed and don't count. World is getting better, you just gave us proof!

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

Viviane

Viviane being a democrat is a choice, do I get to refuse to bake cakes for them?

Yes. Political affiliation is not a protected class.

How about atheists?

No. Religion (and lack thereof) IS a protected class.

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Can the world condition be worse than this?

by abiather in

the innocent civilians being attacked is the norm of the day.

attacking hospitals too are happening frequently.

now schools being attacked is becoming a regular affair (last of its kind massacred 150 children in peshawar on december 16, 2014)..

Viviane

Future events are guaranteed on the basis of the established pattern of the past.

Name one specific prophecy with a date, exactly what would happen and who would be involved that came true.

) Everyone knows a friendly neighbour is better security than costly war-preparedness, yet no one wants to try this, but continue with the past wasteful method.

I neither lock my house nor my car. You've been proven wrong (not that it will stop you from spreading ignorant woo, it never has).

2) It's everyone's experience that alcohol has no benefits except harm to the self and others, yet use of alcohol thrives!

That's not my experience either. Wrong again.

Why do you keep making stuff up? Are you a brilliant troll or just utterly committed to woo so reality holds no meaning for you?

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

Viviane

JeffT: Being a KKK member is a choice. Being gay or black or a woman is not.

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Can the world condition be worse than this?

by abiather in

the innocent civilians being attacked is the norm of the day.

attacking hospitals too are happening frequently.

now schools being attacked is becoming a regular affair (last of its kind massacred 150 children in peshawar on december 16, 2014)..

Viviane

If abiather is determined to swim in the sewer, are we at all surprised he thinks the whole world is poop?

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When a Witness claim the uniqueness of Bible and its accurate prophecies!

by abiather in

with the bulletin of atomic scientists moving its iconic doomsday clock up 2 minutes on 23.01.2015 (which means we are just three minutes closer to midnight in comparison to 17 minutes to midnight in 1991), and rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm predicting the end of the world as early as 2017, subject of last days is getting heated up again..

next time you have a witness boasts about the uniqueness of biblical propheciesespecially about last days, you can point the following photographic description of our times found in srimad bhagavatam, one of the ancient scriptures written even before the bible:.

1) religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of kali (age of unrigteousness).12.2.1.

Viviane

Entropy requires no proof--the very fact that we left JWs itself is the proof. Many of us left them because we experienced them becoming worse than other religions

Again, you're mixing things that are unrelated. Everything requires proof when claimed and can be dismissed without it.

You've offered nothing except attempting to change your subject when you are unable to demonstrate your point and now claiming "no need for proof". You are no better than those who try to tell you how to live your life because God talks to them.

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Please vaccinate your children

by Viviane in

and remember your boosters as adults!.

currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

Viviane

It's the cost of having a society, Twitch, you are correct. We have to balance personal rights and beliefs with the needs of society at large.

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When a Witness claim the uniqueness of Bible and its accurate prophecies!

by abiather in

with the bulletin of atomic scientists moving its iconic doomsday clock up 2 minutes on 23.01.2015 (which means we are just three minutes closer to midnight in comparison to 17 minutes to midnight in 1991), and rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm predicting the end of the world as early as 2017, subject of last days is getting heated up again..

next time you have a witness boasts about the uniqueness of biblical propheciesespecially about last days, you can point the following photographic description of our times found in srimad bhagavatam, one of the ancient scriptures written even before the bible:.

1) religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of kali (age of unrigteousness).12.2.1.

Viviane

My subject is ENTROPY.

That's an extremely dishonest thing to say. Your initial OP never mentioned entropy at all, and now it's your subject? That's wasn't true and it's changing your subject. Your subject was how a pre-Biblical prophecy (which wasn't pre-Biblical) proved that the the Bible wasn't unique in proving the world was getting worse (which every statistic shows isn't true).

You've since attempted to introduce evolution of the mind, body and somehow tie physics into it to prove your points. So far you've failed to do any of that.

All you've done is fail to connect entropy, your new thing, to prophecy and how anecdotes don't prove your pre-determined ideas.

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Please vaccinate your children

by Viviane in

and remember your boosters as adults!.

currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

Viviane

The evidence is clear and overwhelming that vaccines are beneficial and save numerous lives as well as saving many from horrible afflictions.

Well said, Simon. The simple fact of the matter is that vaccinations work. I will repeat that for emphasis.

VACCINATIONS WORK.

They save AT LEAST 20x the amount of people that have adverse reactions from measles related death alone without even discussing debilitating after effects. No more iron lungs or wheel chairs for children, no more smallpox, sterilization or scarring, no more pertussis, mumps, rubella, shingles, brain damage or other infectious diseases.

I would go so far as to say it's not even numerous, it's innumerable. It's millions, at least, lives helped that we are talking about. More likely billions since vaccinations were introduced in a widespread fashion in the 50's.

Vaccinations work. Not getting your children vaccinated is willfully ignorant and risking lives.