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  Why would a Swingers Club Want to Become a Religion?

  by cha ching in

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  " a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.

  " (associated press).

  the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.

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  Think of it this way, there is already a lot of screaming "OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD"! and maybe even "OH JESUS YES! YES YES YES OH JESUS!"
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  Why would a Swingers Club Want to Become a Religion?

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  " a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.

  " (associated press).

  the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.

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  Viviane

  Sex has always been a big part of religion. Why wouldn't they want to?
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  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

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  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

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  Given a living creature and the same creature dead, the difference between them is the substance that "animates" them.

  What is that substance?
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  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

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  it is in fact one mans story. with lots of contradictions I might add. this is whats so puzzling, where did anything come from?

  Why did it have to "come" from anywhere?

  Since He is a spirit being, He exists "nowhere", He exists outside of the psysical realm.

  What is this spirit stuff made of?
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Viviane

  I keep getting drawn to this thread.... it has almost a magnetic personality
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Since both theories are mystic, there’s no winner. They both cancel each other out according to the laws of physics.

  One is an unfounded assertion, one is a fact and a theory, the third is under investigation. None of that has anything to do with the laws of physics in any way.

  The elusive Higgs boson, the so-called "God particle," may not have been discovered despite claims of it being detected, some scientists are saying.

  So? What does that have to do with religious people making unfounded assertions?
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Viviane

  Ok you're nitpicking again on a tangent and you don't seem the least interested in the core of the comment; I take a rest, because I don't want to engage in this sort of exercise again that only serves to derail threads and tire me out. It's your thread....and I'm out.

  I've no idea how it's nitpicking to point out, in a thread about people making claims about things they cannot possibly know or quantify, that you are making claims about things you cannot possibly know or quantify.

  Bye.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Viviane

  This thread is taking on the tone of a secret elders meeting. Lots of smugness mixed with self congratulation mixed with an incredible vagueness.

  If by "secret" you mean "open to the public" and "elder" you mean "people who aren't in charge of anything here"
  and "meeting" you mean "a discussion forum", then... well, only by meaning the literal exact opposite of what you said, really.

  With regard to the smug vagueness, it really would be better if theists learns how to say what they mean. Or at least know what they mean. Or what science is. Or evolution. Or their own belief system.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Viviane

  In practice though, is not abiogenesis a firm belief among atheists and one which atheistic scientists are hard at work trying to find evidence for.

  Why in the world would you expect those on this forum to attempt to claim what other people believe?

  Yes, if someone is sincere their belief or non-belief imo should be respected. Why? We are all intelligent adults free to make our own decisions on whether God exists or not.

  None of that explains why in the world I should respect the belief.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Viviane

  better now?

  Not really, since you've not quantified "common" or "many". It doesn't really tell me anything.