Cappytan,
I've not found one yet that doesn't use special pleading or resort to circular arguments.
I'll actually net the question down even further.
If we give god praise for this:
Why wouldn't we blame god for this:
Viviane
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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??
by Deltawave inok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.
i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.
what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.
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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??
by Deltawave inok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.
i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.
what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.
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Viviane
We need to appreciate all the beautiful things that God has put on the earth for us.
Why? Why do we need to appreciate that God did it (in your opinion)? How is appreciating the world different with or without god and what need will go unfulfilled if it is appreciated without God?
Does that also mean that we can blame God for all of the ugly things in the world? If not, why not?
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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Viviane
We all engage in Watchtower lingo drivel as entertainment at times. It was so manipulative and now is easy to see the a priori to the Wathctower in all their writings.
Perry, you are amazingly dishonest. You pretend to speak for others, quote out of context, lie about science and the bible and create strawmen all the time. I dub you Perry the Fibber. You are a purveyor of fibs, a promoter of fibbing, one who buys, sells and trades in the business of fib.
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Missing the point?! Is this what Jesus had in mind??
by Deltawave inis this what jesus had in mind?
to be a spiritual person you must:.
underline your books.
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Viviane
I would guess the same place you received yours?
If you did, that would be an example of why you shouldn't guess.
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave inthere is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
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Viviane
I never said it was tactless to address lies or irrational viewpoints but it can be done with tact, humility and kindness.
Yes, it can be. I used exactly the amount of tact, humility and kindness appropriate for a person I believe to be a retread of a cult recruiter.
Going all out on the OP headstrong who is relatively new on the boards is something that must be taken with great caution.
It is my belief that this person is not new in the least.
Have a good day.
You as well.
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave inthere is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
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Viviane
Actually, let him speak even if he is instead of jumping all over him!
No one is stopping or attempting to stop DW from speaking.
but it appears to me that Deltawave is simply another disenchanted JW, looking for mature discussion. Too bad it got derailed by certain ones calling him a liar.
DW is promoting BK teachings, a group who has previously tried to recruit for their cult here. Why is it a bad thing to suggest someone is a BK if they are promoting BK teachings?
With regard to the lying, DW was telling lies. Why is calling a lie exactly what it is a bad thing?
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave inthere is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
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Viviane
I have been ridiculed for saying that I still feel spiritual even though I don't believe in God
No one should do that.
I would never ridicule someone for expressing a belief in God, as I see no point to it.
I've not seen anyone do that.
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave inthere is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
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Viviane
However the delta wave is the brain wave of someone asleep. So if I as trying to promote another cult or sect I would have chosen alpha wave which is to be awake Haha
That is 100% a BK teaching. I am pretty sure we've covered this ground before...
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave inthere is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
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Viviane
Don't mind the rude behaviour of some posters on here.
It is true that if you are highly opinionated on here and try to present those opinions as fact some posters will tactlessly try to jump on you.I it very curious you think is tactless to jump on an expose lies. On an completely unrelated note, I have this amazing wheat to sell you.
The rude behavior is the lie in the first place, not the exposure of it.
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How do JW's know that the bible is inspired?
by cappytan inasked a friend of mine this question the other day.
here was his answer: "well, because paul said, 'all scripture is inspired of god...'".
but seriously, that argument is like saying, "the bible is inspired because it says so!
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Viviane
The same way any religious person knows it. They're making stuff up.