Posts by Viviane

Right out of the gate, you cherry pick a scripture, quote it out of context and try to change it's meaning to fit your agenda, basically lying about what it says.

Typical Christian, lying about what the scriptures say when it suits your purpose.

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

Viviane

It is when anyone promotes their opinions and when those opinions are based on contraventions of naive physics and promoted as scientific truth rather than theory and for which there is no/ or insufficient evidence (Dawkins on religion and memes for example) then i have a problem with it.

When you see someone besides yourself do that, let me know. I know I've never done that and I've never seen Cofty do it. You, however, do it rather often. As in the post complaining about you, you appear to have little understanding of the terms you use, a "naive" understanding, so to speak.

I'd agree more with Scott Atran and others that there is an analogous likeness between genes and memes but would not say that memes are like genes as literally as Dawkins and Blackmore do which is that memes are fixed on their own survival. I also maintain that it is this mistaken idea, propagated by Dawkins and Blackmore amongst others that fuels the frenetic militancy of militant atheists in that they (militant atheists) are gripped in the thrall of fighting unseen hordes that are bent on their own survival.Your very own "attack the idea not the person fits this description". If you did just that it would be fine - but you seldom separate the idea from the person (I don't think it is even possible to do so).

This is an excellent example of unconnected rambling.

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Why Ravi Zacharias Never Became A Jehovah's Witness (Pre 1975 End Times Preaching). Famous Christian Apologist.

by skepticSam in

i was shocked to learn dr. zacharias studied with the jws and why he never became a jw, it was the jws incompetence that lead to dr. zacharias leading a different path in life.

he's one of the best speakers and logicians in my opinion, he's got two phds and works with extraordinary men and women willing to speak at any university or mormon temple because the word he uses is based off the word.

how come the governing body are afraid to attend q/as at yale, cambridge, oxford, ucla, harvard, rutgers ect..??

Viviane

Ravi often takes liberties with reality. While he has quite a powerful speaking style, his logic is a joke and he often distorts texts and passages to his desire for a specific meaning.

He's an average Christian apologist using bad logic, out of context quotes and distorting reality to emotionally manipulate his audience. He just happens to be an excellent orator as well.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

Viviane

You cut and and paste after learning something new from me. Learn to think correctly.

Right. You can't prove that you aren't currently in a long distance relationship with a sheep you met online, so we can conclude that you are, using your logic.

I look at a black man in the eyes and he can see in my eyes and face that I am looking at another man same as me. But I notice that when many other white men talk to black men the sincerity is not there.

Way to judge people without knowing anything. But then, that is the Christian way.

There truly is no racism in the JW.

Absolutely there is.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

Viviane

Yes he does. I mean yes she does. I mean Viv, eh I mean I.... no Cofty does... I do
Damn I have forgotten who I am.

Just look down. Are we wearing sensible loafers or or wickedly delicious heels? Easiest way to tell who we are at the moment, dear.

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Does this make me a terrible person

by Clambake in

my wife has a friend at her kh.

she is 37 and her friend is 88. i know it sounds kind of strange but they are both the wives of ubm so they kind of stick together.

my wife is very sincere in this friendship and this lady is a nice person.

Viviane

Has anyone here lost their entire heritance to the WTS.

None of this is your inheritance or any of your business.

Believe it or not, it’s not really about the money.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

Viviane

You said nothing about Vivian's remarks about me in all of her posts, calling me "pro-rape"

You are. You promote Biblical morality.

I have not dictated to you or to anyone else on this thread what morality to choose. There is a difference between morality and profanity. Look in a good dictionary.

Right. Good point. Morals can be good, bad or otherwise. To be profane is to specifically treat something considered sacred with disrespect or indifference.

So, interestingly, since Biblical morality is pro-rape, taking a position against rape is profane.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

Viviane

It's nothing more than a deputy type of question. It sounds deep and interesting but it's nothing, which is all they have.

They're pro-rape and, since i've got no of otherwise, they have a thing for sheep. That's literally the level of their thinking. They've got nothing else.

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The Confederate Flag

by Simon in

the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

Viviane

It's a part of USA history.

So is slavery.

Denying history and dictating what people can and cannot do (including something as innocuous as owning and/or displaying the Confederate flag) is what the Watchtower does.

Who is saying to deny history? Why do you think it does no harm?

If it's doing no harm, then it's doing no harm.

Oh, look, a tautology.