Viviane

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  Have you heard the one about "Back to the Future" Predicting 911??

  by EndofMysteries in

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  when somebody posted this on fb, i was anxious to see how ridiculous it would be, probably worse then the gb prophecies, etc.

  after watching the clip, i honestly don't know what to believe.

  at the very least it's very entertaining and interesting.

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  Viviane

  After watching the clip, I honestly don't know what to believe

  Why not?
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  If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

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  what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

  bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

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  Does anyone ever notice how the know it all atheists sounds like Elders when dealing with this subject. No No No, that’s not true………..blah blah blah.

  Well, actually, you've that exactly backwards, which in no way surprises me. The atheists here are point out facts and asking questions and refusing to believe something just because someone says so, the opposite of how elders work and how those promoting prophecy are acting.

  I think you are just indiscriminately throwing around the pejorative "just like JW elders" because facts and reason don't support your particular evidence free assertion and you've no recourse other than insults to support your side. I mean, if you had actual evidence and an actual prophecy that matched, it should be easy to show, and you've not done that.

  Both show people of 'nations' etc left alive. If there is a 1,000 year reign perhaps this was the start of it. Either way no matter what any believe, it definitely doesn't match up with the WT version.

  Neither evidence-free assertion of either claims matches reality.
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  If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

  bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

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  http://www.theonion.com/article/jews-covenant-up-for-renewal-with-god-19919

  http://www.theonion.com/article/israelites-sue-god-for-breach-of-covenant-423

  I'll just leave those here....
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  If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

  bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

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  They've have over 50 years to return - I don't think there's a time limit. Jews, people with at least some Jewish ancestry, and spouses have the right to move to Israel.

  Agreed, 100%. My only point is that when people do the Biblical prophecy thing, it's important to call them out and keep them honest when they claim the Jewish peoples are no longer scattered around the earth. There is no measure by which you can claim you've got less than half the things and claim you have them all, even when rounding up.

  Also, they have to remember that to be Jewish in Biblical times meant BOTH and ethnic and religious thing, now it does not. A large portion of the Israeli Jews are not religious. Do they count? If so, why so?
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  If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

  bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

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  Viviane

  They haven't but, as Jews, they surely have the right of return to Israel, if they so desired.
  That's half-way there ...

  They've have over 50 years to return and are less than half way there.
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  If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

  bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

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  Viviane

  Bible prophecy did say Israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

  More Jewish people live in North America than in Israel. How have they been brought back?
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  City of Sodom discovered

  by Saved_JW in

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

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  This city isn't Sodom. The timing isn't right and the location is iffy, at best.
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  City of Sodom discovered

  by Saved_JW in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

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  Viviane

  It's not called "The Daily Fail" for nothing.
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  City of Sodom discovered

  by Saved_JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

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  Viviane

  Here's the CV of the guy promoting this as Sodom...

  1972, B.U.S.; Anthropology, Linguistics; University of New Mexico.
  1975, M.Div.; Theology, Biblical Studies/Archaeology/Languages;
  Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.
  1978, D.Min.; Hermeneutics, Exegesis; Luther Rice University.
  1983, Ph.D.; Biblical History, Religion; Trinity Theological Seminary.
  1985, Post-Doctoral Studies, Advanced Archaeological Methodologies;
  Southwest Biblical Seminary.
  1987, Post-Doctoral Studies, International Seminar in Theology & Law;
  University of Strasbourg, France.
  1987, Post-Doc. Certificat, Int’l Law; International Institute of Human Rights, University of Strasbourg, France.
  1988, Post-Doctoral Studies; ANE Archaeology, Ceramic Typology; Southwest Biblical Seminary.
  1989, Post-Doctoral Studies; Levantine Ceramic Typology; Jerusalem Center for Biblical Studies.
  1995, M.A.; Archaeology & Biblical History; Trinity Southwest University
  1999, Ph.D.; Archaeology & Biblical History; Trinity Southwest University
  
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  The Old Age

  by Caupon in

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  so now that most of us have come to a semi truthful understanding that the witnesses are wrong about evolutionist, there is a certain question that i have always had.

  now if you were to ask any jw, they'd recite a complete fallacy from scientist regarding this.

  but what is you guys input of this.

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  Viviane

  Perhaps you heard it in your head when you made it up. People often hear voices when they're confused.