Booker. T...looks like you got the 'diplomaticotelephonio ' treatment, what else did you expect ...newlightiotelephonio !!.its never gonna happen.
They already have their noooo light channel and it aint by telephone.
Best wishes.
galaxie
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Sorry posters JWs leaders will not "change" 1914 or 144,000 "literal to figurative "doctrine
by booker-t ini actually called bethel a few weeks ago and i was shocked that i actually got thru to the writing dept.
i was abit nervous but i asked the jw writer if there was going to be a change in doctrine.
i thought he was going to immediately hang up on me thinking "apostate caller" but he was actually nice and we talked for a while.
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Atheists lose latest legal fight 'In God WE TRUST".
by jam inok folks i'm an agnostic.
but to remove the motto from our.
currency is a little too much.
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galaxie
Hi lois;...it's on the Clydesdale bank 20 pounds sterling. Equivalent to approx 33 dollars US.
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Atheists lose latest legal fight 'In God WE TRUST".
by jam inok folks i'm an agnostic.
but to remove the motto from our.
currency is a little too much.
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In Scotland I've got Robert the Bruce, victor over the English at Bannockburn, and Rabbie Burns composer of Auld lang syne on the banknotes.
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What's more to blame- the WT or the bible?
by keyser soze inaren't they both just differen't variations of the same lie?
the only difference is the scale on which their impact on humanity is measured.
that, and the fact that the bible can exist without the wt, but not vice versa.. but at the end of the day, what's the difference between claiming to be the inspired word of god, or the one true religion?
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Heaven;... I agree entirely,
My point being the blame is exspansive , not solely a WT question.
Best wishes.
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Troll Accusations
by Frazzled UBM ini have noticed that some of us are a bit too eager to label new posters as trolls.
while it is clear that there are some posters who just like to stir up trouble or are out and out apologists there are others who are witnesses starting to have genuine doubts and so ask questions but then when they see the responses the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they push back and argue with what they are being told.
this can lead to very negative reactions from jwn members and accusations that the person is a troll.
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galaxie
Shows the vital importance of face to face social interaction, it can mean the world of difference even to see some ones facial expression voice inflections etc.
Some forum interactions would probably come to a better and probably friendlier conclusion if conducted face to face.
Best wishes.
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What's more to blame- the WT or the bible?
by keyser soze inaren't they both just differen't variations of the same lie?
the only difference is the scale on which their impact on humanity is measured.
that, and the fact that the bible can exist without the wt, but not vice versa.. but at the end of the day, what's the difference between claiming to be the inspired word of god, or the one true religion?
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galaxie
The bible is a compilation , do we attribute blame to specific contributers? Then the topic expands to , 'blame for what '. All adherents to scriptural interpretation are to blame if they have the power and will to influence the gullible if they choose not to utilise their own grey matter.
You could of course argue that many find good and comfort in the bible, would we say that certain writers are responsible for that aspect? Or is it that they are unable to find inner peace , happiness of their own volition.
So it begs the furtherance of the O.P blame for what?
Best wishes.
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some changes need to be made
by venting inbut im still in and on the fence.
" remember who owns the fence?".
shunning needs to be tempered.
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galaxie
Hi venting...You can cure your headache with the analgesic of quitting the JWs.
Best wishes
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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Jgnat,.. you seem definite in your conclusion, but polls are merely opinions in the the main and of course some do not have the outcome of their conclusions.
I would argue that the influence to believe spirit was a supernatural force /influence on our lives comes from a more powerful/influential minority the minions following suit out of fear.
Best wishes
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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Viv ...by mentioning those names you are still assuming that what they say is credible, it may well be but the ancient world and understanding of forces which have a bearing on our existence are far more than the sum of those you mention , I presume that you will agree?
The fact that spirit was identified as no more than the air we breathe is very plausible given human reasoning and understanding and the complexities of same, as is the fact that some saw it as a supernatural force, hence the very foundation of why we discuss it today and certainly a causal factor for your question.
In the context of spirit as merely the air we breathe who could argue with certainty that ancient peole saw it as just that.
The main reasoning and acceptance of spirit as something other than a physical force comes to us courtesy of the bible and such like.
The proportionality of those writers as opposed to wordwide population is miniscule.
What comes down to us in the evolution of language and ultimately the vocabulary we use is not down to those writers of mystical stories, but rather normal generational handing down.
I therefore see no confusion the ancient understanding of spirit being no more than the air we breathe as a physical force based on the evidence of effects of such is entirely possible,
The fact that it came to be seen as something other than that ie magic or supernatural was most probably down to a tiny minority in relation to world population, the effects of which have persisted to this day ie the minority speaking for and influencing the many.
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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galaxie
Viv... You are making an assumption that they thought it was magical.
They had the intelligence to know it was a physical force be it gentle or highly agitated, they knew it entered the body physically through the nostrils or mouth they knew it madethe chest rise and fall, they knew without it there was no more life they . They also knew its force could bring down trees.
Don't you think they would see it as a physical force. We insult their intelligence not to think so.
If some saw it as supernatural then they were just as deluded as some people today.