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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

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  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  lisa rose I agree , but i dissagree that creationism is religion. If you want my 2 cents on it see my previous posts.

  phizzy I agree facts do need proof , although you could argue FACTS are indeed facts LOL . I would not agree that a teacher should teach lies or suppositions as truth .That teacher should be held to account for it ,and in my view struck off!

  About your flat earth example , no one would agree it should be taught as true, but would you not allow it to be known in a history lesson about ancient beliefs I.E. why would you exclude it?

  Creationism cannot surely be equated to ancient belief in a flat earth, why because we all exist (fact) and our existence came about by some process . The learning about this process is what education is, for EVERY point of view or theory should be up for discussion. The whacky nutcase ones can be discounted very quickly by sound reasoning On no account should lies be taught as fact.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  B.O.T run, creationism is not A religion but is a point of view concerning how things, us included came into being. unless you utilise censorship why shouldn't it be part of school or college debate . The various points of view or understandings should of course NEVER be taught as fact . Although evolution is a fact the evolutionary process did not begin until the creation (bringing into being) of the material which kicked off the process .This process however did not necessarily require the hand of god . I.M.O. it definately did not .Therefore the subject of creationism in schools should only ever be discussed within the realms of the probabilities and beliefs which exist .Each can then draw their own conclusions . Hopefully common sense will prevail.

  Cofty, why wouldn't anyone in a discussion in school or wherever about the holocaust not be able to learn that some people hold the view that it did not occur ? Similarly a discussion on astronomy/astrology . Each relates to the subject matter, the false or overtly superstitious information or points of view can then easily be debunked by anyone with half a brain .I dont think the route of censorship does anyone any favors.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  Nugget that is the whole point of studying a subject even the most ridiculous of points of view must be discussed to be reasoned on in order to form an opinion scientific investigation is built on this principle .Hence the reason why I said previously the world religious and scientific explanations must be studied in parallel because they are both offering an explanation for the same question.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  Science: study of natural and physical phenomena:ANYTHING appearing or observed . Creation did appear at some point in terms of our human understanding, it is the means by

  Which it came about I.E. the fundemental cause which is the scientific study. Religious reasoning on this subject easily fits with scientific study without contradiction . IMO children should be given the opportunity to discuss all opinions .Hopefully of course they will come to a non biased conclution for themselves which scientific study concurs with
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  Surely you not advocating that?
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  COFTY. Not to be argumentative, but the topic subject does not mention evolution but 'creationism', which as an encompassing subject would surely take into account all aspects of how things have been' brought into being' which is the definition of to create. The pupils would surely have a right to have all understandings of the subject discussed. To avoid them saying at a future time, " i wasn't told about that ".
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  COFTY .I agree evolution is fact. I was referring to the creation aspect as per topic question I.E. by what method did 'creation' begin, as defined "bring into being" It doesn't have to be an intelligence as in god, but can also be due to other forces which physicists are still trying to ascertain So as i say the topic question is not fundamentally about evolution per,se.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  galaxie

  I think it should be taught as part of a subject that mixes world religious with scientific reasoning. Neither should be taught as FACT, and i think the age of the pupils should be taken into account.
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

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  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  galaxie

  Supposition may have a lot to answer for?!!!
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  I may not be able to hold the status quo for longer!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  today my mom called me three times at work to tell me how "worried" she was about my spirituality.. i so wanted to tell her some ttatt but just said, "mom, i am fine spiritually.

  if i am ever in trouble spiritually, i will tell you.

  meanwhile, i would really appreciate it if you left my relationship with god a private matter.".

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  TTATT You say you know this is the ' only life', use it , enjoy it. Your advice to others is admirable, but shouldn't you apply this reasoning to youself first? Better to face it earlier than later. I hope you have freinds or even other family members around you who can help and support you. Always remember most if not all on this forum are with you.