D.D you seem to be saying the perfect angels rebellion was as a result of his ' naughty thoughts ' , before mans creation ? This is getting whackier and whackier Can I ask you yes or no do you really believe that??. And there's still the question of where was this perfect angel / being getting his naughty thoughts fromm remember no choice without a selection. !!
galaxie
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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DD..I am folowing this thread by way of context argument as I am essentially athiest.Is your comment not contradictory? On one hand you say evil came into existence at satans rebellion , but on the other you say evil may have existed before humanity , According to genesis the humans were created and then they were tempted . So satans evil thoughts must have developed after human creation .So where would he be able to formulate his evil thoughts from , if he had a choice? Where would he as a perfect angel get his choice from? There is no choice without a selection who provided the evil part. There can only be one answer his creator .
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Is it possible for believers to ask for something in prayer that doesn't......
by punkofnice in....involve someone else being controlledor affected by your chosen god?.
if someone else is controlled or affected, doesn't this mean that freewill is out the window?.
surely god either does or doesn't answer prayers?.
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galaxie
Punk : Is the definition of TITTER : to laugh at at the size of a woman's breasts? Heh heh.
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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D, D you mention the perfect angel who became satan (supposedly) as having his first evil thought how could this entities thought be construed as evil until after the consequences of his thoughts or actions became apparent? Would this perfect created by god being, know what evil was , is evil not a human description of what we determine to be detestable. Otherwise evil would have to originate from the creator. Following on from that suggests evil existed before any human creation. Is therè something gods not telling us, perhaps we didn't stand a chance from the outset?. Jùst a thought!
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Talking with a nonbeliever...
by suavojr inin my search for the truth and the burning desire to become free from all forms of dogma and wishful thinking.
i have approached my first crossroads in my life, should i continue to believe in a god or not?.
currently i am leaning toward agnosticism, but all the suffering in the world, all the loss and pain in my own life makes it hard for me to simply let go of the idea and hope that at the end justice will prevail, that one day god can make it all good.. .
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Seraph its counter productive to force a discussion into the realms beyond our cognitive understanding ie the limits of our physical brain . Yes it is frustrating but a small engine no matter how much it revves its little head off will never be a Ferrari. And of course science can only study/ question that which exists but it can create( bring into being)things which would not have existed E.g cloned animals , which really flies in the face of god I.M.O So bravo science it is the future of mankind if used to our advantage .God will increasingly become a silly irrelevance.
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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There is of course the 'existance' of the thought processes of the human mind, so technically it could be said that these concepts (god, satan, demons.) Do'exist' in people's minds .Where of course all sorts of non...sense can be dreamed up !! iTS ALL IN THE MIND AND NOWHERE ELSE!! In my humble opinion of course.
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Is it possible for believers to ask for something in prayer that doesn't......
by punkofnice in....involve someone else being controlledor affected by your chosen god?.
if someone else is controlled or affected, doesn't this mean that freewill is out the window?.
surely god either does or doesn't answer prayers?.
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Would any loving parent ignore the plea's of their child who was truly in need and reliant on your answer/attention? The derivatives of to pray, are to make a plea , plead , entreat. What would ANYONE think of a parent who would ignore such a child in need of your answer?I think the child would very quickly lose' faith in that parent if they were ignored continuously. It always amazes me that people can still have faith In 'god' when their continued plea's are not answered. Oh well it takes all sorts to make a world I suppose.
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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A little while .I remember them ,'the JWs', saying it was the time in which god took to create eve was the gap. Specifically they put that gap down to months then changed it because the big A hadn't occured!!!....Its almost embarrassing to talk about, Oh why do I even bother??
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Why doesn't Jehovah just destroy Satan and the demons then leave humanity alone?
by yadda yadda 2 indid you ever wonder that as a jw?.
if all the trouble on this planet is down to satan and the demons, why not just get rid of them and then leave humankind alone and see how we go from there?
wouldn't a god who "is love" (1 john 4:8) full of mercy and justice at least try that first?
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galaxie
Perhaps this all seeing, all knowing ' god 'actually gets a kick out of watching his oh so inferior subjects suffer. After all the loving aspect of god I.M.O was dreamed up by men who could then blame the nasty bits on the poor fallen angel who didn't stand a chance as god introduced 'sin ' to him anyway How do we know 'god' didn't engineer the whole thing, after all he's had plenty time to rectify the mess... and he still aint doing it folks.
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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galaxie
perhaps the 'legal' marriage certificate should not be issued until proof of consummation has taken place. Now whos going to be "witness" to that... heh heh.