i dont get yor point jesus didnt have a wife nor did john the baptist, jesus was tempted at the same age as adam or the devil has a legal argument that one would have been more prepared than the other to be tempted, so adam got eve at 30 when the devil was in the garden with them. it says that a man shall leave his parenrts and stick to his wife but he was under his fathers control till he was thirty, if you cant see it sorry
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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so what exactly is your point you come accross as one thows people that beleive in the cosmic fart, or do you call it the big bang if so mate dont make me laugh. if you are one of thows. all i have to ask you is what came first the chicken or the egg and you cant answer. its realy that simple mate. and as you said about your qualifications even you should see that.
all you have to do is bring the cosmic soup theory into what is known today compared to yesterdays technoligy. and it becomes laughable.thats the end of that. because it was that that changed the way people think. not the big bang or the comic resinance or the anti chaos or the quantum leap or even the newest THEORY the gas ballon that expands then collapses every couple of trilion years ?
but granted the damage was done.as thats what people wanted, freedom from god, well youve got it, on you go. dosnt mean hes not there.
you should see your doctor about that anger of yours. acouple of pills and you might be alright.
farkel im sorry you didnt get it, you missed out on the word eliminate. have you tried looking up knights and knaves or is that foriegn to you
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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fair enough sainty all the best
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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David was 30 when god made him king - David was anointed when he was a young lad 1 Samuel 16:13. What significance is his date of anointing? its not exactly valid, you could say jesus was anointed after adam ate the apple you will bruise him in the heel remmember. and then there is all the prophesies about him down through the generations, the point being,any one can put an argument together and throw some scriptures in, your scriptures dont mean any thing, because you dont under stand what your talking about. Why was Jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry - I thought he was about his father’s business at twelve. Luke 2:49. We know he was twelve then, because the bible account says so. Luke 2:42
now this is just silly, why would god allow the devil to temp a 12 year old who hadnt realy developed yet, after writing down in his law that a son was his fathers responsibilty untill he could register at the age of 30 thats why the devil had to wait till jesus was 30 because up till then he was under the authority of joseph, even if jesus had wanted to take the devils deal, he would have needed joseph approval if he was only 25.
God saw that man had lived long enough on his own and decided that 30 was the age a man was a man. This is ascribing a motive to God. Scriptures, please.
of course there a motive to god and please why would i need scriptures gods motive is is to show me and you that were incapable of running our own lives. if you cant look at this plannet and see that. then your a lot more arragant than you sound.
Luke 3:23 Jesus was about 30 years of age. Not precisely.
ok so he might have been a month or two older but deffinitly not younger ho-si'From G5613 and G1487; as if: - about, as (it had been, it were), like (as).
This makes October 2005 a conclusion of 6000 years - The length of the history of man is speculation, not yet proven. Where is your proof? a day for a day a year for a year - This is your own statement, not the Bible’s. If God’s prophecies were so calendrically perfect, why didn’t the Pharisees know of the Messiah’s coming? The only ones who recognized Jesus for who he was were the ones who saw what he DID.you tell me why the pharisees didnt know that jesus was comming, or do you need a clue, ok then mabey they were just like you, when somthing was presented to them they didnt realy give it the attention it deserved. instead lauged it off, but hey! he did come and hes coming again. did he not say be on the look out, what do think he ment by that.
Now when John had news in prison of the works of the Christ, he sent his disciples To say to him, Are you he who is to come, or are we waiting for another? And Jesus, answering, said to them, Go and give news to John of the things which you are seeing and hearing: The blind see; those who were not able to, are walking; lepers are made clean; those who were without hearing, now have their ears open; the dead come to life again, and the poor have the good news given to them. And a blessing will be on him who has no doubts about me. Matthew 11:2-6 BBE
thers no point to this bit but ill try and help you out with it, john the baptist knew who jesus was while he was in his mothers belly if you remmember he jumped when mary approached with jesus in her belly. the fact that john was baptizing people before jesus showed up and telling people to repent. actually opening the door for jesus, the point about that scriptue is that jesus didnt send them back saying yes i am, he gave john the evidence and left the rest up to john. that all i did here gave you the evdence for you to make your own mind up. print it off and use it for toilet paper if you want.
If you read them you will see that they are what Mat 24:21 refers to as great tribulation. The bible says that hasn't happened yet . Yes, and the bible was written 2000 years ago. There was a great tribulation for the Jews. Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70 <http://physics.technion.ac.il/~icps24/histo.htm> . Prophecy fulfilled.wakey wakey good morning. revelation wasnt written till ad 96 so how can it be the prophecy of somthing written 26 years after jeruselem was destroyed revelation is about the time of the end. at least do some bible research
The devil is still in heaven its next year has evicted not 1914 . - You have no physical proof of this.Doctrinally speaking, I believe that Satan was defeated 2000 years ago, when Christ died for our sins. I do not believe we have earned another punishing round with the devil. Jesus took that punishment for us. The time, time and half a time was the time he spent in the grave.
personally if you beleive that then try this jesus died for imperfections figurativley he spat out the apple that adam ate he didnt save you or me. thats for me and you, he made it possible for you to be saved there is a big difference.
Where, O death, is thy sting? where, O death, thy victory?
Now the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin the law;
but thanks to God, who gives us the victory by our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:55-57This But is de A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.: - also, and, but, moreover, now [often unexpressed in English].
And we have an easy test for your prophecy-making. Want to bet me? Wait until next year. Be a man, come back on that day, to see if you were right. Oh, yeah. What physical evidence will we have that the devil has come? What should I be looking for? Just so we can make the test fair.
come on if i won how do i get my money if you win well youll have to sue me as ive got none. but the clue that your looking for is the king of the north, look him up when you see him youll know
You need a good foundation to have a good argument. Make your foundation more sure, and your conclusions will have more merit.
well what can i say
Everyone, then, to whom my words come and who does them, will be like a wise man who made his house on a rock; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house, but it was not moved; because it was based on the rock. And everyone to whom my words come and who does them not, will be like a foolish man who made his house on sand; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house; and it came down and great was its fall. Matthew 7:24-27 BBE
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But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Matthew 24:36-37 ASV
NOW THIS IS JUST TYPICAL. WHERE DID I SAY THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ARMAGEDON. IF YOU READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY YOU WOULD SEE THAT I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE TRIBULTION STARTS AND ENDS IF YOU READ REVELATION RIGHT YOULL SEE THAT PEACE AND SECURITY COME AFTER THE TRIBULATION MASTERS AND SLAVES. READ IT FOR YOUR SELF OR DO YOU NEED TO RUN OFF AND ASK SOMONE.
And besides, my son, be warned by them: of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Ecc 12:12
AS FOR YOU SAINTY IM FINNESHED WITH YOU MATE. IF YOUR REALY THAT INTERSTED GET SOME TREES THAT ARE WINTERING AND SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DROWN ONE.YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE TO ARGUE DOWN YOUR JUST OUT TO WIN IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN HAVE IT. good subject the flood but who wants to talk to must be winners about it.
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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is that it sainty are you finnished, or was there somthing in there that filterd thriugh to the dream world that your living in. what you cant deny is that somone wrote 2000 years ago about people ruining the earth being brought to ruin. and here we all are. if you dont beleive in god then what hope is there for your future. none if your an evolutionist why are you not taking out the people who are a threat to your genitic lineage. why are you just sitting there and letting the rest of the world kill you off. on the other hand there is always good old god. at least ive got hope mate what have you got. even a glass bubble isnt going to save your existence. laugh on mate youll be standing before him soon enough.
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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i asked for somone to shoot it down not huff and puff, shoot it down dont depress me with doctrine university degrees pseudo intullect and your average ridicule job by someone with satan attached to his name that the best you can do SHOOT IT DOWN means take ity appart that involves reading.
show me im wrong, SHOW ME, DONT TRY TO CONVINCE ME, SHOW ME, USE A BIBLE, NOT A CRYSTAL BALL, SHOW ME IM WRONG
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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shoot it down means take it apart, im not inerasted in thesis or university degrees or plastic intulectuals or insiders and outsiders, or people who for effect attach satan to there title , hey because they feel the need to stand out. so use somthing they think is shocking enough to attract the right type of attention [come ahead sainty youve not got it]. i asked for people to shoot it down not huff and puff, if you cant shoot it down crawl back to to sad tittle imaginary gods that are going to save you from the fact that there is a hole in the ozone layer 3 times the size of australia, that speices after speices are dissapearing evrey year, that the country that i live in males produce far less sperm than they did 20 years ago, why because you lot are far to buisy doing the devils twisted little deeds, that your far to buisy looking at your own future never mind your kids. dream on you dont have one .
you have no future! youve even pretended to your selfs that its no longer a hole in the ozone layer, because that dosnt fit in to your tiny little minds. instead you opted for the easiest thing for your brain to accept and they call it global warming. the whole plannet is being sterilized by micro waves and radiation and the only thing you wish to concern youselfs with is spelling mistakes shift keys. well ive put it to you, ive done my bit. the blood guilt isnt mine. happy victim picking
but hey if youve got some of gods kids in your house hold, mabey you should look up arrogance.
shoot it down intullectuals, proffessors, kid on gods, guru's, die hard witnesses, and of course total ego trippers. shoot it down. not oppinions evidence. facts. read the scriptures that i posted and say somthing that means somthing. as im not in the least bit intersted in pseudo intullectuals. (plenty of thows}
come ahead webclocker
laugh on riddicule its no skin off my nose
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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thats not even quality riddacule. and theres me thinking that somone some where would at least find some scriptural evedence to shoot it down, but your obviously incapable of that age old proccess of elimination, tut tut tut. or is it that you just cant be botherd, buy the way were did i say i was one jw's. just another assumption, if you take the time to look up the scriptures. you acctualy see somthing that was never taught by jw's. but thats a fault on your behalf.
as for super man i always thought he arrived in a crystal container as a baby not a teenager, so i dont have to shoot that down your perfectly capable of shooting your self down.
shoot it down : riddicule dosnt count, as we all know about attention seekers. and thows with in us that just love playing insiders and out siders
come ahead, but use some scriptures, or crawl back to the little gods that youve made up for yourselfs cause the real one makes things to difficult for you ,as it involves some reading
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by webclocker injoseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.. why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve.
gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king.
an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam.
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joseph was 30 when pharo gave him egypt,why because he prefigured jesus, david was 30 when god made him king,why because he prefigured jesus.why was jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry,because thats the age adam was when god gave him eve.
why would god put all of these scriptures in the bible if adam was only 25 or 26 when god made eve. gen 41:46 num 4:3 num 4:23 2sam 5:4 1chron 23:3 luke 3:23 adam was the first king. an age god decided a man was of age.because if jesus was 30 and adam was only 25 then the devil has a legal case that god is cheating, that jesus had longer to develop than adam. why did david hide from saul for so long, because there was no way god was going to let him be a king before he was 30, as with jesus as with joseph. it wasnt an after thought, god saw that man had lived long enough on his own and decided that 30 was the age a man was a man. jesus spent 30 years of peace before the devil tempted him 3 times. this makes october 2005 a conclusion of 6000 years. adam and eve were only in the garden of eden for 3 1/2 years because that is the lenth of time jesus ministry lasted propitiatory sacrifice,an eye for an an eye,a tooth for a tooth,a life for a life,a day for a day a year for a year.
. dan 7:25 dan 12:7 rev 12:14 all speak of a time times and half a time, that equals three and a half years. and all of them are mentioned as taking place in the time of the end. the bible says this.
forty two months is also three and a half years, and appears in rev 11:2 rev 13:5 and also fits into the time of the end.
a thousand two hundred and sixty days, is also three and a half years. rev 12:14 tells us this. you can look them up in rev 11:3 and rev 12:6 also talking about the time of the end. there is a three and a half year period in the time of the end. the bible says this. if you read them you will see that they are what mt 24:21 refers to as great tribulation. the bible says that hasnt happend yet.
the devil is still in heaven its next year hes evicted not 1914. and hes here for three and a half years
2005 begins the last three and a half years or 42 months or a time times and half a time or 1260 days they all belong here. the lenth of time the devil is here. the lenth of time he was with adam the lenth of time he was with jesus the lenth of time he will have with us, why would god allow the devil longer with adam than jesus and us, or longer with us than adam or jesus. he dosnt the devil and the king of the north are the same time frame.adam failed his test jesus didnt will we fail ours .
if adam is born 4026 bc eve is born 3996 bc 30 years later. in gods calander that is year 0, which means jesus was born in the year 3995 ad the 2004 years that have past since jesus, and you come to the year your living in 5999. the devil is on his way.
if 2005 is right then count back 7 times from that date and you should come to the year the jews went into captivity.
im not saying this is right im saying it fits.
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by webclocker inhttp://pub208.ezboard.com/fbeyondjehovahswitnessesfrm17.
http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/lastgen.html.
the first link is to somthing i started writing to people of all religeons over a year ago, the second link was sent ot me recently.. id like some honest oppinions.
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http://pub208.ezboard.com/fbeyondjehovahswitnessesfrm17
http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/lastgen.html
the first link is to somthing i started writing to people of all religeons over a year ago, the second link was sent ot me recently.
id like some honest oppinions. ive stopped responding to flack and will only answer the people who are interested