Demi Moore...
Oh, wait, Sarah Brightman,
No, Belinda Carlisle... Wait, Enya...
I hate questions like this ! I'd be happy with just about any date so long as she isn't pretentious.
i've thought about this, the problem is there are so many wonderful choice's, i don't know where to start!
i always had a thing for tiffany, the singer, when i was younger!
Demi Moore...
Oh, wait, Sarah Brightman,
No, Belinda Carlisle... Wait, Enya...
I hate questions like this ! I'd be happy with just about any date so long as she isn't pretentious.
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donna huete - and i'm an ex-jehovah's witness.. .
woooo-hooooo
Welcome puppylove...
dear friends:.
what a pleasure it has been to browse this website over the past couple of years...first as a lurker and then as a member.
i now intend to "come out of the closet"...blow my cover and tell you my story (and i'm sticking to it!).
Welcome...
I like readin' what ever I want...
I take want I like and throw away the rest...
oh, and R rated movies too
Best of luck with the family.
gambit
i use to hate kissing.
i was a virgin until i was 19 and married.
i hadnt had a chance to experiment with kissing in my teenage years.
Ok, slightly off topic... but I'm working on a poem about a deaf/mute and I need to know which way your toes curl, up or down ?
I know you think I'm kidding, but I was up till 2:00 last night working on this...
I think mine curl up in anticipation and down upon reciept, but it's been sooo long, I can't remember...
jehovah's witnesses.
the organisation.
i love 'em both still.
Is it just my imagination or what? If you like "intellectualizing" and "rationalizing" everything in life, then I can see liking the JW's... Did you ever in your life have an emotionally expressive conversation with a JW ? And I mean one where YOU really felt that the JW was expressing heartfelt sentiments that were sincere and not reeking narcissism and/or self-pity?
If you have, then you've found a JW that may be someone to hang on to... in fact, they may be leaving soon, so hang on tight.
gambit
hello, new member here.. i registered a couple of years ago, but my initial experiences here were not of the warm/fuzzy variety, which must have been what i needed at the time; so, i left.
recenty, a friend gently suggested that i might want to give interacting here a second try.. so's i don't have to type it twice, i offer here a hyperlink to my member profile.. although one might reasonably be named "cruithne" - especially if one is irish or scottish - it is not my real name.
well, of course it is my real name, in that i choose to be known by it.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!
and Welcome...
I'm fairly new myself and it has been nothing but great experiences (give or take a couple of threads dedicated to sarcasm and wit)... If you don't like something, speak up... no one here will shun you...
gambit
Scooby --
Go to the bookstore or library and get a copy of "What Color is Your Parachute?"
Best career strategy book on the market. Only a couple chapters apply to interviews, specifically, but the entire book will help you understand why your interviewing for the job you THINK you want in the first place.
Good luck...
Oh, and if you can, schedule another interview somewhere where you don't give a rat's *ss a day or so before or just go out for dinner all dressed up the night before... sounds silly, but an hour or two beforehand trying to carry yourself will help you feel more relaxed.
gambit
if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".
it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.
how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?
Garybuss -
Im am 42 yo, left the org at 18... I "knew" I had to cause it felt wrong, but didn't understand it all. One of my brothers, 2 years older than me, was disfellowshipped when I was 16, he was 18. He was kicked out by my father and told he wasn't welcome home. This is not heresay, I was there to watch and hear it all. I was told NOT to associate with him (or my oldest brother) as they where bad influences.
I never got dunked, and moved on with my life as soon as possible (that is, I finished HS and got a job)... I ended up living on the streets, under viaducts, and hitching rides all across the country for a year or so. I started in Colorado, ended up in very rural Alabama homeless, penniless, the clothes on my back (and a brief case of STYX and STONES albums... pretty funny ! Music paid for a lot of meals !!! )... I located my DF'd brother and he put me up while I attempted to detox, but I went further down hill. He ended up moving on with his life (by way of thumb) but I was too numb to go on.
To cut to the chase, it took me years to put my life together... having kids was a blessing for me, since I was able to grow up all over again, taking more lessons from them (socially) than they know and always being an emotional supporter of their goals. 2-3 years ago, as my two oldest left home, I began going through sever depression, anxiety, lack of concentration, and all sorts of other "strange" symptoms... Mid-life crisis some say... NOT... I finally realized something... a lot of things I was taught, which I was unaware I was taught, stuck with me... Like, you talk marriage before you kiss, you accept anything someone dishes out to you in the name of love, masturbation is a sin, going down is a perverse act, the woman is submissive in a marriage... shall I go on... THIS IS ALL CRAP, B*LLSH*T, and, taught VERY, VERY WRONG !!!
So, don't call it "mind control" if you don't want to. Don't matter, cuz the effect is the same. It was my parents responsibility to be parents, not to pawn the job off on some self-righteous publishing company that can wash it's hands of any wrong doing... "Cause it's just a publishing company"...
BTW My formative years (9-14) were spent hearing over and over and over how 1975 was going to be the end of the world...
In conclusion, yes gary, I agree with all your arguments... they do admit free will, they do admit that they choose to be the way you are, they are responsible... I guess if none of the other examples have made the point, I will try one more... every teenager is wiser and smarter than his/her parents !!! Just ask them !!! It's called growth... those that grow THROUGH the process, realize they needed some guidance and reassurance that they were wiser and smarter than a little kid. A mature parent will step aside and let their kids grow through this process and become self-sustaining adults. Immature parents (eg the borg) will never relinquish control or decision making and just simply be there to help when the chips fall... no immature parents will continue to chastise, criticize, harangue, and shun children who don't follow in the parents footsteps. This too, is pitiful mind-control.
gambit ** wiping the sweat off his forehead, and feeling like he just let go of a ton of anger **
Gary - you have a PM
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stinkypantz: shout it from the rooftops, you got yerself one helluva a job!.
tell us all.....we have to know, and at the same time, congratulate you on landing it....from what i remember, they loved you, and you're going to be getting more $$..
SP -- Is that your secret ? Guess you told the right person !
CONGRATULATIONS !
if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".
it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.
how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?
Heathen --
I think they do use voodoo techniques as well .
LOL ! That is great ! I wouldn't doubt it.
Bullfrog -- Welcome. You're free. Great post. Hope to read more of what you have to say.