StarTrekAngel

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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Awesome!
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  Would the GB ever do this? Pope Francis did. What do you think?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  pope: bishops who covered up for abuse guilty of wrongdoing.

  [at mid point in article].

  on sunday, francis directed his attention to the victims of abuse themselves, meeting with five survivors, including people who had been molested not only by priests but also abused by family members or educators.

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  It would be terribly ironic if the steps taken by the pope were in whole or partly due to the recommendations of Dr Applewhite. But once again this might just be wishful thinking.
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  How many people are there at Bethel?

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  rumor has it 1600 people are going to be re-allocated to the field from bethel (which i assume refers to the brooklyn complex?).

  does anyone know how many people will then remain?

  i have tried to find figures for the number of employed people but i am coming up with nothing.

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  And somehow adding 1600 people to the field service is going to make a difference? Who would eat that? Oh, I forgot, they already ate the overlapping generation thingy.
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  What will you do?

  by Defianttruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking, "what if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?".

  i have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones.

  every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, i will meet them with open arms.

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  StarTrekAngel

  It would depend. Some act the way they act because the teachings fit the person they already were. Others, were indoctrinated into being judgmental and would change if they realized what has happened to them.

  Obviously everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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  How will many JW's react ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.

  usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.

  but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Well I keep seeing more and more of this construction halt on pro-JW sites. Someone even said there will be another letter speaking about that after the annual meeting. We shall wait and see. I seriously doubt they will announce such set back to all JWs.
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  I'm a coward.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the move, it has been so enjoyable to not have jw's breathing down our necks asking why we didn't make the meeting, or having to pretend to be "spiritual" in front of family all the time.. 90% of my week is virtually stress free.

  then, my mom calls or texts wanting to talk to her grandkids.

  every dang call, she asks about the new congregation, if we went to the meeting, etc.. why can't i tell her to fk off?

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  StarTrekAngel

  Hang in there cappy. You have done most of the work. Take a break. Can you may be avoid the calls citing busy work day?
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  Why are GMO's bad?

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.

  first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..

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  So may be we can start by making a differentiation here. GMO as an applied field of science may be a good thing. May be it can produce safe food but such does not automatically means that the industry is using the technology ethically. It seems to me that they are not so interested on feeding the world as they are interested in their own pockets.

  Sorry to insist but a week ago, saying that car makers cheated on their emissions testing could have sounded like an environmentalist conspiracy theory. See the technology to make an environmentally friendly diesel engine is there, but there is a trade off. A trade off (low power) that if admitted openly, would cause the consumer to reconsider. The technology was applied during the emissions testing but not during normal production. What re assure us that the same isn't happening with GMO? This is where the problem relies. Allowing a corporation to toy with nature like this just because is safe could be a ticking time bomb. There should be more check and balances, at the very least, to ensure that a few greedy corporations are not going to dictate what we put in our mouths.

  An example of that, I remember, was cited during the swine flu outbreak. Apparently the WHO has the power to remove patent rights on vaccines when a pandemic is declared, so that enough vaccine can be made available.
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  Why are GMO's bad?

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.

  first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..

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  My understanding is that in most cases, the company that sells or creates the products tests it. The FDA or the USDA don't have that much of an ability to conduct long term testing on each individual product. They can make certain studies, specially when health issues arise. But they are not able to test each product themselves. They review the tests done by the companies themselves and I assume they have people capable of understanding the science. But once again, is the government we are talking about here.

  Oh and be the way, on my previous post, lets not forget that a week ago, saying that car makers cheat on their emissions testing could have sounded like conspiracy.
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  Why are GMO's bad?

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.

  first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..

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  StarTrekAngel

  I really don't care, at this point, buying GMO or not. I'll like it when the label tells me straight out what's is it but I have no reason to believe that either crowd has a definite answer. If anything, you could say that organic is the safe way but, at the same time, I can understand that the risk of eating GMO vs the risk of not eating at all are not comparable. Rather eat something. In the grand scheme of things thought, if kids in Africa are lacking a certain vitamin, we should put more efforts into knowing why we can't get food to these kids rather than figuring out how to surge their vitamin intake. Not saying the latter isn't necessary. In other words, GMO foods can be a tool for progress but science should carefully consider wether there are other alternatives and wether our choice of alternatives is driven by compassion or greed.

  Even some of the products labeled as non-GMO can contain GMO ingredients. Even as he mentioned in the video, sometimes GMO feed is given to cows. I can't help but to see loose ends anyway but I like to reaffirm that each side of this religion-like debate has its shortcomings when it comes to producing facts. For example, a GMO fish that produces more growth hormones may be safe to eat in a sense, but do we know what this excess hormone would do to us? We know that in the frenzy of producing so much milk, cows are milked constantly. The cows being pregnant at some point, means that a lot of milk is loaded with estrogen. While it is not the only source, other non-related studies suggest that overconsumption of estrogen and estrogen mimicking substances can have an impact on our health. I know GMOs have been around for decades but so have been low fat products and just now we are beginning to understand that low fat was not necessarily well understood.

  If the industry has to redefine the meaning of organic or twist the label to claim "non-GMO", then I will doubt all the information out there is accurate. Does it remind you of the overlapping generation? I also very much against putting intellectual rights on genes. Is just a step in a very bad direction.

  I am more inclined to label transparency so that we can make informed choices rather than have to trust the industry to give us the right things.
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  How will many JW's react ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.

  usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.

  but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I know the letter is there but the letter says nothing about construction work. The rest so far seems to be speculation based on input that we may be able to trust. I am talking about hard proof.