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  First post I’ve seen where a Circuit Overseer is trying to denigrate the Royal Commission. Are these new instructions from WT?

  by John Aquila in

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3mxy3t/circuit_overseers_giving_anti_royal_commission/.

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  We just had the CO visit two weeks ago and he mentioned nothing. However, he did start his talk at the assembly last Sunday talking about child abuse. I walked out in rage so I don't know if he may have mentioned it then.
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

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  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  LOL... yeap, that is pretty much what a JW wedding looks like in South Texas. Specially the dance moves.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  Even if we are not ready to leave, it would be a good way to judge how many would do it.

  Now sincerely asking, what would an anonymous letter do? I mean, it would be nice if they could use that to see how many disgruntled JWs are out there but they could also toss it out and think it was a scam?
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  Watchtower is beginning to look like the stock market

  by truthseeker in

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  the changes the governing body are making are of such magnitude that it resembles the stock market with violent swings in both directions.. when the dow moves 50 points in either direction, nobody comments, but when there is a 500 point swing people sit up and take notice and this is shown by the number of visitors to the jw survey site..

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  That is because in its very nature, the WT has to act almost like an insurance company. Balancing risk vs donations and investments. They have to keep moving the cheese in order to attract enough attention from its members and cause volatility.
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I am hispanic as well. I am 6ft tall, white with brown eyes. I am not as muscular but I sure am working on it. Go live in a hispanic community ( I said live, not visit like a tourist) and go see how much they celebrate their "first generation in college".

  It is a well know fact among hispanic communities that they do not have the level of education opportunities as other kids have. My wife was a migrant worker since age 12 and so are most of my co-workers. I am in the IT field but most of my co-workers worked in farms picking fruit to contribute to their families. Go watch the movie McFarland USA and then ask any hispanic if the movie has any resemblance with reality.
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  Yeah, I know the no education thing is widespread. I was just wondering if there was such an emphasis on the book of Acts because sometimes the translation makes a big difference. In Spanish, Acts 4:13 does not simply make the apostles sound uneducated, it makes them look like morons as well.
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  How will many JW's react ?

  by Phizzy in

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  i did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.

  usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.

  but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.

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  Oh not very long. The truth will always be out there. But there is a difference between a handful of witnesses knowing that the construction is at a halt (and may be even talking themselves into thinking that this is only happening in their area) and another vast different to hear it from official sources. I just came back from an assembly where it was presented to us that even getting a new iphone would be unwise in such times of necessity, when construction is at an all time high. How would that affect them? If the GB made a broadcast to remind everyone that just because the loans were forgiven, it did not mean that donations were not needed, then announcing construction is on hold, will not have the desired effect.
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I think the English crowd tends to be more kin to wake up as the language barrier just isn't there. Just as much as they understand the teachings, they can easily understand TTATT. On top of that, the Spanish crowd tends to be generally speaking less educated and half of the time they don't really understand what is being thought to them. I just came from visiting family and I can hear the conversations going on (one of them an elder) and you can tell they don't fully grasp the teachings of the organization they so faithfully support. They are also less interested and less trusty of governments and the media as a whole so it is very easy for them to agree with the WT teaching about the satanic media. Another problem... I know a lot of hispanic families but out of all of them, I don't know that many that have not had a child abuse problem within the family. Sweeping the issue under the rug also tends to be the default reaction, which aligns with the idea that we should hush any issues within the congregation, not to make Jehovah look bad. Or uncle or dad. I am not saying that hispanics are perverts. Is just their social condition and upbringing makes the problem bigger. If you speak to any of them they would tell you that they abhor child abuse (sounds familiar?). In turn, very few of them know how much of an issue it is around their own families. Those who do, keep it quite because they were brought to think is taboo to speak about it.

  I definitely think we need a jwfacts in Spanish. It is where the org is getting more success and we have little resources in that language. I wrote to Paul Grundy asking for permission to translate his articles but he never replied.

  P.S.: Just curious.. being a JW in a Spanish congregation for over 10 years, I can tell you that we make a strong point out of Acts 4:13. We basically praise people for being uneducated rather than remarking that Acts 4:13 is meant to show that the holy spirit was acting upon the people. Is this the same in the English JW?
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  I am also impressed ( I probably should not be but can't help it) on how little information there is about TTATT in Spanish. Also, most of the pro-JW spanish forums I've seen have no mention of anything controversial. May be they are heavily censored?

  I came across a mention of JWs in the facebook page of Larry Hernandez, the singer. He also has a reality show. Apparently he bumped into some JWs at a store and recorded his conversations with them. He then posted some words regarding how little people respect JWs despite their noble cause. This is the only place where I was able to post some comments regarding the TTATT. Other sites seem to ignore any of my posts.
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  And by the way, there are a couple of threads about it in JW-Archive. No one there is calling it fake. Even the subject of the construction issue is not seen as a fake.