Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Canada's CBC reports on Australia's Royal Commission

by OrphanCrow in

this story will not be kept silent.. thank you cbc.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jehovah-s-witnesses-church-hid-child-abuse-cases-for-decades-australian-inquiry-told-1.3168944.

StarTrekAngel

Heard it on NPR radio this morning on my way to work. South Texas

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News item in Sweden on Child abuse Royal commission Australia

by InquiryMan in

already on its first day of hearing, this case makes headlines on the other side of the globe.

swedish regional newspaper carries this coverage:.

http://www.vk.se/1496701/jehovas-vittnen-dolde-sexovergrepp.

StarTrekAngel

Heard it too this morning. NPR in South Texas

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Would it be possible to catch a GB on his travel plans?

by StarTrekAngel in

i was just wondering if, among the many videos available, anyone ever caught one of the gb members leaving hq on a trip.

i doubt anyone followed them but at least leaving the building.

what do they ride?.

I was just wondering if, among the many videos available, anyone ever caught one of the GB members leaving HQ on a trip. I doubt anyone followed them but at least leaving the building. What do they ride?

There is an elder in my KH, who is a close friend of a CO. He came to the hall about 3 years ago and was soon appointed elder. I always had a feeling he was a spy for the branch. Anyway, he has mentioned to me of having gone on special assignments, traveling on behalf of the org and flying first class. If this guy flew on first, then I've got to assume the GB does the same, at a minimum. A private jet can be rented starting about $2,500/hr.

Any other info on the subject?

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Article on Aum Cult.

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.nippon.com/en/features/c01904/.

discussion on this site and others have pointed out the similarities between high control religions (like this one) and isis.

i believe this article shows that the only thing keeping some jws from committing murder is the absence of "new light" on the matter..

StarTrekAngel

http://www.nippon.com/en/features/c01904/

Discussion on this site and others have pointed out the similarities between high control religions (like this one) and ISIS. I believe this article shows that the only thing keeping some JWs from committing murder is the absence of "new light" on the matter.

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Abusing the power of tears. Yet another sign of desperation

by StarTrekAngel in

so i was seating at the meeting this past sunday.

the latest wt article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom.

the whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers.

StarTrekAngel

So I was seating at the meeting this past Sunday. The latest WT article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom. The whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers. Receiving the resurrected ones, etc. At least for the Spanish version, they did not use the word "visualization". Visualization techniques are said to help people achieve goals and stay centered in the process of achieving those goals. Wether is to loose weight, quit smoking or become the next biggest CEO, it is claimed that visualization (the act of imagining one self having achieved that goal) is a very powerful tool.

The word the WT magazine used is "imagination". Reminds me of and old episode of Spongebob. In it (in case your kids are too old or have none), Spongebob gets in a big box and starts making sounds, as if he was part of some fantastic adventure. His neighbor, Squidward, dismisses his child like game until he hears the noises. He runs over and opens the box, just to find Spongebob seating there by himself, inside the box. Upon questioning him on how it was possible for it to sound so real, Spongebob replies.. "Everything is possible when we use our IMAGINATION".

For all practical applications, they were referring to the same thing. They took the time to compare our situation to that of people of the past who "saw" the promise as something real and then tried to have us do the same.

So you probably wonder what does it all have to do with the subject of the thread? Well they spent quite some time in one specific paragraph. You see, if you are familiar with WT studies, you know that there are a handful of folks who give out most of the comments on each paragraphs. They are mostly always the same people. You have another handful who are the shy type, who are willing to read a bible verse out loud but can not find the courage to make up their own comments.

That was not the case for this one paragraph for it had a special question and special meaning to most people. It was one of those paragraphs were you are asked to tell what your hopes are for this upcoming Cinderella like world (I owe that analogy to my wife. Thanks Babe!!) Almost everyone had something to say. Everyone wanted to make a comments and they allowed everyone to take a few seconds and let out their hopes. Most, off course, were centered around wanting to see a dead relative. Before you know it, several people were crying. Those who were able to hold back the tears, could not do so at the end. For as you guessed it, the study was closed with song 134.

I have noticed an increased to what I would call "tear-appeal". I know is not new, I just feel there has been an increase on using this tool. There was a video at the 2014 International RC that we all know about. Since then (almost a year now), I know we had at least four other occurrences. Wether there was talk, a KM article, WT study or a video, but at the end always closing with song 134 and the outcome was identical every time. It is almost like if someone up in Bethel decided that they needed to inoculate everyone with a shot of grief every few months.

Anyway, I thought I would bring this up. I know many here have been JWs for 30 or 40 years. I've only been one for about 13 and I do not recall this type of torture happening so often. To me this is just another sign of desperation by the GB.

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exJW Billboard is up.

by cappytan in

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waiting on higher resolution photos from wifibandit.. but here is the (redacted) notification from the company.

apparently they take photos with a potato.. (the billboard directs folks to http://jwawake.com ).

StarTrekAngel

If anything, the persecution complex would not come from the R&F seeing it, it will come from the assembly talk remarks. If this billboard is noticeable enough, every assembly in nearby towns will include a piece where it points out the apostate messages being used to bad mouth Jehovah's people

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Curious JW Insurance salesman...

by cognitivedizzy in

found this interestinga week ago...recently i had a brother who does life insurance for a living call me to see if i was interested in a offering, since i was keen on taking up a insurance policy for my 1 year old daughter for her education purpose 20 years down the line i told him that he can come over,fast forward todayhe comes over with his manager (not a jdub) and we have a long chat about the various long term insurance plans... i found it very strange that a guy who believes that the world end is imminent would be so keen on selling me a policy with a tenure of 20 to 25 years .. in my mind , i'm thinking " is he serious ??

"well after i agree to buy a policy for my child and specifically stating that its for her future education to pursue whatever higher education she likes, the manager encourages me saying " that's amazing , cos of education will increase in the future so on etc "... btw i live in a developing country when education is not free...so i'm done with all the paper works and the manager leaves, so its just me and the brother ( who is a ms by the way )i asked him, doe she really think i made a good choice paying for a expensive insurance plan for 20 years with good returns considering the end was so near..he was dumbstruck i aksed the question, he took a moment and hesitated and said this !!!

!he was like "i don't ever think the world will end anytime soon "do i sense another dissenter .... perhaps a fellow man.... i'm excited :)

StarTrekAngel

There is a double standard when it comes to that. Most could trace it back to 1975. We are to preach the end is imminent, but we can not live our lives as if the end was coming tomorrow. You have to buy life insurance and if you don't, don't ever say it is because the org says the end is coming. You would not want the org to be blamed for that like it happened back in 75.

If you cling to your materials things (instead of giving them to the org) then you are not being alert of the impending end but if you do not provide and prepare for the future of your family, then you are worst than those without faith.

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JWs With A Financial Interest In The Org

by JW_Rogue in

through personal experiences which i'd rather not relate because it would give away my identity i have come to a realization.

many brothers own businesses that a greatly supported by witness activities.

when local congregations need some service they will prefer to do business with a jw.

StarTrekAngel

It would not surprise me at all. Just check the case of QSC Telecom and you would see a definite arrangement where an individual could benefit from doing big business with the org.

In my personal experience, there is this one elder, the one that gave me my study, who I accidentally caught at least twice. I would see him at assemblies from far and recognize him. Coincidentally, foot traffic and the shape of the place itself, would lead me to have to approach him from behind to say hi. In at least two of these cases, he was talking to someone, near a corner. When I got closer, he was handing the other guy a check. He would look noticeable distressed upon realizing that I came close and probably saw that. He will still greet me and pretend nothing happened. The funny part is that he was always paying the same guy. Don't know the other guy name but he was always in charge of fixing the mic at assemblies.

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Just an introduction

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

allow myself to introduce myself.

lol.

StarTrekAngel

Can anyone tell me which bible verses they use to allow divorce because of "spiritual danger"?

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Just an introduction

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

allow myself to introduce myself.

lol.

StarTrekAngel

Glad to hear thing are going better for you. Give her some space. You are going to have to re-build trust before you can even consider discussing religion again. Best wishes for you!