StarTrekAngel

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  Im curious. What kind of lifestyle the GB live?

  by SecretSlaveClass in

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  2. scandals

  anyone ever seen pictures or the actual houses and cars the gb own?

  im wondering if the live a middle class lifestyle or more like high society?

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  StarTrekAngel

  Yeah, not sure how lux their locations are, although very few probably know for sure. Lets not forget the outside does not define the inside. I used to work in an area of northern Mexico. There was this house that reminded me of the compound where they found Bin Laden. The outside looked like crap and it was located in a slum. But once you walked inside, there was nothing cheap about it.

  The nice thing is that they have every need tended to. And by that you have to realize that is "every thing". Many have said that they also have accommodations for themselves in other world branches, but I can not offer any evidence of that. In our local circuit, the CO has two apartments. This way he can live closer to where the assignment is for that week. One of the houses is right next to an Assembly Hall (Recently built). He does not even bother to clean any of those places or even cut the grass. Our congos take turns doing the cleaning and caring for the yard. There is a WT Study edition, April 2014. There is a biography there of a man who became one of the many assistants to Knorr. You should read it and see the amount of people that are enslaved to these men for some of the most trivial of tasks.

  Funny. the musicians that record the kingdom songs have to pay their way to NY twice a year and record for free, while the CO can not cut their little yard.
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  An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

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  What I think that needs to be specifically addressed is the fact that they will comply with the law if the law is there. What I don't think they are being squeezed hard enough is as to when do they confirm that a crime has been committed. The two witness rule still applies. If there are not two witnesses to the event, then in their view, nothing happened and there is nothing to report. They are still in compliance, in their view and this will continue to happen.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  I second that sir82!
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  while this may seem to contradict what I posted earlier, please note that my previous post was not to challenge the thread, it was mostly pointing at space travel technology. I still believe that the technology required to land a man on the moon was available in 1969. With that said, it would not be unthinkable to believe that a hoax could have been put together, even with so many people involved. Even the NASA of today operates in a need to know basis. Work is isolated very much like in a cult world. I would assume that given the political environment of the time, such secrecy and compartmentalization was ever more present. No one needed to know what the other person was working on. If I have to consider a hoax, I would think that is much more acceptable to think that winning a race against the USSR did not require putting a man on the moon for real, even if it was possible. At what cost? At what risk? And what was to be earned? Scientific knowledge? I think the risk:reward ratio of such feat in 1969 was not worth it just for the sake of knowledge. We've always had other means of getting that information and science has always counted with time to develop new understanding (Science does wait patiently on Jehovah, see that GB?). I believe this to be the primary reason as to why the moon landings ended. The race was won and the new knowledge gain from being there not worth the expense. Think about the Mars rovers. How many of those could we have sent to the moon already? Are they a hoax too?
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  The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

  the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

  that is all..

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  Agreed 100% with millie210. We all wish that this would bring down the WT but you know that no revolution ever started and ended (successfully) in one day. This is one of many battles to come and one of many more that have been in the past. The big difference on this one is the size and sheer coverage that it will get. Let's not forget that google will cache everything for posterity. No more of these forgotten issues of the past. This will not be forgotten so easily.

  If it helps some of us erode the WT credibility and prevent anyone from going into the cult, then we already won. Same goes for those of us trying to get family out. It just builds up on them.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I am not an expert in the matter. Some indicate that there is no way to truly shield a human from the radiation of space. Yet again, we are able to keep astronauts in space for months at a time. The technology to steer a spacecraft isn't that fancy. The first space shuttle was driven around by a handful of 386 processors. Think of a dial-up Internet era computer. Now the Apollo nav system was probably much more primitive than that. My point here is that it needs to be not more than a calculator. The computer of that time did not need to handle hd lcds.

  The physics of traveling in space are all the same but much easier to predict, as the strong pull of gravity and air drag isn't there. In fact, physics (synergy specifically), does most of the work in the vacuum of space.
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  Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

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  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3
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  LDS church becoming more transparent says NPR

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that was what the radio said yesterday.

  it prompted me to look for the topic.

  the following link speaks of the same issue but is not from npr.

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  StarTrekAngel

  That was what the radio said yesterday. It prompted me to look for the topic. The following link speaks of the same issue but is not from npr

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mormon-church-to-release-historical-documents-that-shed-light-on-joseph-smith_55c0e22ae4b0c9fdc75dfd79?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&kvcommref=mostpopular
  
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  Australian branch co-ordinator Terrence O'Brien gets called out for lying to the Royal Commission

  by Mickey mouse in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  watch from 1:47:00 as angus stewart of the royal commission investigation into child abuse calls out the australian branch co-ordinator for lying about geoffrey jackson's role on the governing body.

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  If Mr. Jackson doesn't show up of his own will (no summon required), the lie will be further substantiated in my book.
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  Rodney Spinks' Performance

  by maksutov in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.

  i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.

  spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I do not think that giving all the R&F a copy of the policy would be any form of punishment. I think that if I was a GB member and they offered me such a punishment, I would take it, comply and declare victory over the world. Further indoctrinating those who are still in.
  

  Nothing short of a mandate to report all cases to the authorities or encourage the victim to do so, unconditionally and without repercussion would be acceptable to me. Please keep in mind that I am not a victim myself and neither do I know anyone who has been. The subject is too sensitive and the legalism of the watchtower too good for any indoctrinated R&F member to see anything wrong with the policy or make anything of it.

  If Jesus was not willing to be a judge between two brothers over financial matters (where simple Math would have offered a fair outcome) what makes these nutjobs think that they can judge over a sexual abuse case?