Posts by 4thgen

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Official reason vs real reason

by Rattigan350 in

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there has been many changes in the past decade, but there is a difference between the stated reason and what we perceive as the real reason.. those who have access to the letters can fill in some of the stated reasons or benefits.

it is like they are afraid of telling the truth.

stating that they are making business decisions for monetary reasons.

4thgen

2010: WTS begins closing/merging Branch facilities and selling branch properties

No reason stated but possibly to get cash and cut expenses.

[]POSSIBLY TO GET CASH FOR THE ABUSE LAWSUITS

2011: Drop to 30 hours in required auxiliary hours

Stated reason: more can have meeting with CO

Reason: To get more 10,20,30 hour publishers to give more time and think they are doing something great

[]When a product is not selling, businesses mark it down. It generates excitment for the product and gets a wider distribution.

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I want my donations back!

by Hortenzie in

i want to ask wt for my donations back.

i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?

what approach should i take?.

4thgen

Hello Hortenzie, I wish you well with this, but I doubt you will see a penny. After all it was a 'voluntary contribution'. What may happen is that a letter maybe sent to the local conregation about your request and you may end up with more trouble than the donation was worth. Best to you...4thgen

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What is the deal with the "this is the last memorial" comments from my JW?

by jambon1 in

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the guy i know was saying this the other day.. "it's been suggested this may be the last one", or words to that effect.. where & by whom?.

is this doing the rounds?.

4thgen

You could reply: "Well, if this is the last memorial, I guess they will be halting the buyilding program at Warwick. Have you heard anything about that?"

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The Internet: Where religions come to die. Why the WTS knows this. Excellent Video.

by whereami in

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worth watching all the way through.. .

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqw4krmoug.

4thgen

I just watched this today. Very interesting take on religion and the internet, especially with reference to children and indoctrination.

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Why JW assemblies NEED to change

by kneehighmiah in

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the assemblies would be get better results and get more people to come and be inspired if they were more encouraging.

instead the assemblies are a giant guilt trip.

don't go to college, don't get a good job, dont buy things even if you can afford them, don't play violent games, don't flirt.

4thgen

giordano 67% leaving? Very interesting. Where did you get that number?

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Current 2 day assembly U.S.

by 4thgen in

does anyone have any comments on the current u.s. 2 day assembly (or whatever they are calling it now) ?

my child will be attending soon and i want to be prepared to deprogram.

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4thgen

Thanks all!

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Current 2 day assembly U.S.

by 4thgen in

does anyone have any comments on the current u.s. 2 day assembly (or whatever they are calling it now) ?

my child will be attending soon and i want to be prepared to deprogram.

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4thgen

Does anyone have any comments on the current U.S. 2 day assembly (or whatever they are calling it now) ? My child will be attending soon and I want to be prepared to deprogram.

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Yay! Apostates are no longer "mentally diseased!"

by rory-ks in

original nwt reads: "if any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to healthful words, those of our lord jesus christ, nor to the teaching that accords with godly devotion, he is puffed up [with pride], not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words.

from these things spring envy, strife, abusive speeches, wicked suspicions...".

2013 revision reads: "if any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our lord jesus christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion,he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything.

4thgen

I believe Barb Anderson was also part of the change. She wrote a very detailed and scathing letter about the term. Its published on this site. There will not be any retractions in the literature, Im sure. The damage is done and the seeds planted.

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Why are JW REQUIRED to report Field Service Time???

by JT in

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if you ever wanted to know why this poster put it best

repost-------------------------------------.

in reply to: why do jw keep track of hrs?

4thgen

nonjwspouse you have a pm

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100 things I learned from watching "The Prodigal Son" DVD

by Perversion of a truth in

these are things that were said or insinuated, i start with the first 15.

enjoy!!.

1. working for a corporation in the city makes you fall out of the truth.. 2. if you become inactive or leave jehovah you will make your whole family sad and ruin everything.. 3. all worldly people cheat.. 4. all worldly people curse.. 5.

4thgen

So let me get this straight...it's an evil thing for a young man to get paid for working at an internet advertising agency; but it's Godly goal to work unpaid for an internet advertising agency that's named jw.org?