4thgen
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Samuel Herd's statement about donations and Cialdini's social proof
by slimboyfat insamuel herd made a statement a few weeks ago about halting construction work, laying off bethel workers and reducing printing output: severe cutbacks all round.
he said, like the head of a household, the gb has to make sure the organisation is living within its means.
but he added a very careful phrase, something like: "be assured brothers these measures have not been taken as a result of any lack of financial support on your part.
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4thgen
I don't think the GB are that bright to come up with it on their own. They probably hired a publicist and the publicity agent came up with the wording. -
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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?
by xjwsrock infirstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.
i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.
more entitled may be a better way of putting it.
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My favorite scripture used to be Mal 3:10. When I saw it on the silver bible, I went ballistic. What a reproach!
Yep, I believe that tithing is a last resort, but they will use it! Money grubbing ba**ards!
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One Year Later - A Thank You to Tony Morris.
by cappytan indear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
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Bravo! -
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Retirement Planning for ex-JW's
by Simon inthis is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.
it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.
if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.
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4thgen
Simon, very interesting. We can tell you have given this a great deal of thought.
Undervalued Real Estate investments are a great bargain now. (Buy when everyone is selling....sell when everyone is buying).
A SELF DIRECTED IRA is a good alternative to the regular IRA's, as you can invest in whatever you want, without being tied to the stock market. You can even invest in Real Estate! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Directed_IRA
Also, Below is a thought on mortgage being good debt. Personally, I feel a whole lot better now that my home is paid off!
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Brooklyn Bethel Tours Through The Roof
by freemindfade inwas speaking with someone last night who just recently toured the us bethel's.
the brooklyn tour i heard was awful, very limited and disappointing and conducted by a local pioneer and not even a bethelite.
well from what they are telling the folks on the tour since the tm3 bit encouraging (guilting) people about going to disneyland on vacation when you haven't visited bethel, monthly tours went from 6000 to 16000!
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Brandnew - Lots of donations boxes in the lobby's where you have to wait to join your tour. And of course, there are donation boxes by the literature counter. Wonder if they have ATM's. though.... -
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New movie "Spotlight" coming out - child abuse cover-ups
by WireRider ini just saw a commercial for a new movie coming out.
spotlight - about a newspaper exposing the cover-ups of the catholic church about child sexual abuse.
michael keaton, mark ruffalo.
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4thgen
Thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely be there. -
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Revised NWT...cross references...Has anyone noticed....?
by 4thgen injust let me say, i hate the gray bible.
when i read the revision of mal 3:10 and they included tithing, i almost vomited.
recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray bible.
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Just let me say, I hate the gray Bible. When I read the revision of Mal 3:10 and they included tithing, I almost vomited. Recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray Bible. So I picked a passage and read to her. I did notice that in the center of the Bible, there were very few cross references. The older NWT seemed to have many more.
I searched on this site for a discussion on the matter, but didn't seem to find a thread about this. Has anyone taken the time to compare the Bibles in this matter? I know they have changed to make it more mainstream and a Bible-for-Dummies, but what about all the removal of the cross reference threads?
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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.
by Amelia Ashton inthis was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.
i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!
a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.
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So, since the gas prices are down, will they consider reinstating the home book study arrangement? Never. It was just a cover up. I had always heard that it was because of lack of control over the Dubs. People were more likely to talk of apostasy without constant observation. Remember how they always used to say that the bookstudy's were the most important meeting, as those were our core group for survival during the great trib? When they cancelled the bookstudy many of us were dismayed: Did this mean everything we were believing was wrong about the tribulation. Sure enough! No tribulation. They change was to cover the Wt's behind and of course, their $$$$ -
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CO in midwest gets pink-slipped
by LevelThePlayingField ini saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.
i was shocked but here it is.
here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.
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4thgen
So much for a career that will last...didn't they say not to go to college, and get a good paying job...to pioneer instead? Career with everlasting benefits???? They likened a 'worldly career as taking a job on the Titanic...Well it appears they called that one wrong, too! Pink slip....Priceless! -
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How to handle invites to dinner after Sunday meeting?
by FadeToBlack ini have not been to a meeting for over a year.
yesterday, when my wife returned from the 1 day assembly, i got an invite for dinner next sunday.
i said i would think about it, to be honest, as nice as the people are, it would just be boring listening to their comments about everything jw.
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If the group will be all pumped up and talk about nothing but the 'best assembly they ever heard" and are using you to count their time....then no...But if I sincerely liked the people, I'd go.