Posts by incognito2014

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Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult

by mickbobcat in

i see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.

i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.

his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.

incognito2014

I don’t watch all of Evans’ videos, but I haven’t seen any where he’s even mentioned JW forums let alone ‘bash’ them. It’s certainly possible that he has done so, but it definitely isn’t ‘at every opportunity’. I’m guessing you’re referring to something he said in a ‘livestream’.

projecthydra you have taken the words out of my mouth. I dont recall him doing that at all. Isn't it ironic that there are threads devoted to bashing Lloyd Evans in which he is accused of bashing this forum and others.

Personally I find his material valuable in my journey to shake the JW indoctrination off (as I did with this forum for many years in the past although I think this forum has morphed into something else now that is maybe not so ex JW focussed).

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It's Never Been Easier to Quit Being a JW!

by Simon in

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just don't click that zoom button ....

incognito2014

Actually, in some ways it is harder than ever to leave.

Now it doesn't matter where you live or if you answer the phone or not. If you use social media they will stalk you and analyse every comment and post you make to see if it fits the required personality.

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"Great Reset" and the Borg

by mikeflood in

wow, just watched a video from the 'world economic forum' , a respectable organization by the way, not the usual conspiracy lunatic theorist.

it says that by 2030 meat is gonna be a treat not widely available like today, that the us is not gonna be a global superpower anymore, instead a handful of countries will dominate and that people is not gonna own nothing but will be happy.. well, that would help the borg to keep the craziness going on.. thoughts?

what's this great reset?.

incognito2014

A consumer based society is not sustainable and only adds to problems. Try the 90 day challenge. If you don't use something for 90 consecutive days get rid of it.

This 90 day challenge seems to be a superb idea.

I haven't used my winter coat for 90 days, so I threw it out, and I really needed that coat because I threw my wood burner away last september

I need to fill out my tax return but I can't because all the invoices I was keeping I threw out as I hadn't looked at them for more than 90 days.

My house is on fire, I'd better use my fire extinguisher to put it out, damn I threw that out as it was just sitting there not being used.

Throwing stuff out because you haven't used it for 90 days would drive consumerism as we would just have to buy it all again next time you realised that it was useful.

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

incognito2014

Vidiot

.they know it’s wrong...
...but believe it’s true...
...at the same time.

That is exactly how I felt when in. A strange concept but certainly possible.

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Its not my fault

by incognito2014 in

assume for a minute that god created everything.

there was nothing before him and everything is because of him.

every single thing in the universe he is directly responsible for.. somehow the good stuff we should thank him for but the bad stuff is nothing to do with him, it is our fault.. this world that he created that was “good” has turned in to a right shitshow but despite being absolutely responsible for it from start to finish it is not his fault and in fact he has somehow turned this round so that instead of being to blame he is the person who is going to sort the problems and we should be thankful..

incognito2014

Free will is simply an excuse. God should not need humans to make excuses for him. If free will caused the fall from grace then free will was a design fault. It made 100% of the first humans go wrong and 33% of the angels.

The whole Adam and Eve nonsense (which is laughable from every respect) meant that this free will caused the humans to sin for the most trivial and ridiculous of reasons.

God is just like many modern politicians, he over promises and under delivers. He boasts about his achievements but it's never his fault when he gets it wrong.

In fact, in that respect the Governing body are very godlike.

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Its not my fault

by incognito2014 in

assume for a minute that god created everything.

there was nothing before him and everything is because of him.

every single thing in the universe he is directly responsible for.. somehow the good stuff we should thank him for but the bad stuff is nothing to do with him, it is our fault.. this world that he created that was “good” has turned in to a right shitshow but despite being absolutely responsible for it from start to finish it is not his fault and in fact he has somehow turned this round so that instead of being to blame he is the person who is going to sort the problems and we should be thankful..

incognito2014

Assume for a minute that God created everything. There was nothing before him and everything is because of him. Every single thing in the universe he is directly responsible for.

Somehow the good stuff we should thank him for but the bad stuff is nothing to do with him, it is our fault.

This world that he created that was “good” has turned in to a right shitshow but despite being absolutely responsible for it from start to finish it is not his fault and in fact he has somehow turned this round so that instead of being to blame he is the person who is going to sort the problems and we should be thankful.

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Craziest thing you ever saw in a KH?

by dubstepped in

i did this in my facebook group for my podcast and it was fun.. so what's the craziest thing you ever saw?.

for me it was watching a brother have a heart attack during the meeting in the auditorium.

i was a kid and noticed him shaking and acting strange.

incognito2014

Wasn't in a Kingdom hall so don't know if it counts. But during a talk in an assembly hall the speaker was listing various sins, can't remember the context and suddenly this "sister" jumped up and literally ran out screaming really loud. Can only assume she had a guilty conscience.

Also at I believe the same assembly but cant guarantee it, as they raised the brother from the baptism pool they whacked his head on a hand rail and knocked him out. It didn't last long he was up and moving again within a few minutes.

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A Stroll Down Memory Lane!

by Atlantis in

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how many of you remember these?

(since these are old i don't think the tower will get a hernia.).

a stroll down memory lane!https://docdro.id/ylyfur6peace among men of good will.

incognito2014

I loved the written review. That was the best bit of the meetings for me. I had forgotten all about those.

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Who is considered more bizarre?

by incognito2014 in

jws or mormons.

from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

incognito2014

Woohoo!!!! I have asked a question and got lots of responses. Usually I ask questions (with this or my previous username) and no-one responds and then I start to doubt myself. Thank you all.

Anyway - I always understood it was magic spectacles and not a hat, but the hat seem to be the focus and underpants!.

My reason for asking is that I have been speaking to a Mormon recently, we don't get into deep conversations we just meet while out with our dogs and I get the distinct impression that she don't really understand her own religion but so far all advice has turned out good for her so she goes along with it.

Almost like the JW view that if if it turned out to be false it is still the best way to live *which I totally disagree with as a sentiment).

I would suspect that it is a club just like JWs are and belonging to a club is a good thing.

I have no intention of upsetting the Mormon but rather find it interesting to talk as 2 people with similarly viewed religions in terms of not being mainstream

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How old were you when you left the borg?

by Iamallcool in

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me-23 years old.

incognito2014

36 after being in for 30 years. 21 years have passe since then. Best choice I ever made.