Posts by SuperBoy

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The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.

by truthwillsetyoufree in

please spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.

i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.

every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.

SuperBoy

I came out while literally running away - it's the worst way to do it!

What pushed me away was the discussion of how disgusting homosexuals were, the abject shock at 'They even have fake weddings - what a mockery of Jehovah's arrangement" etc. etc. and I remember feeling neither disgusting and I never thought of gay weddings as a mockery.. well, OK, I did, but I had been indoctrinated!

A gay wedding I went to recently was the best wedding ever: it was a humanist ceremony, really thoughtful and truly lovely.
That said, all the couples at that wedding have split up since, except the groom and groom. So I'm sure that means something! ;-)

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For those who have been out for 5 years or more.......

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

........... do you find you are now far more relaxed about things ?

things in general, and things wt/jw related ?.

i find i am much more relaxed and pragmatic about life in general, mrs phizzy and i do what we can, but we don't get overly upset at what we cannot do.

SuperBoy

Great thread.

I am much more relaxed.

Peeps in the UK might understand what I mean if I saw that when I was a JW it was like being a walking-talking Daily Mail.
Looking for scandal everywhere; getting upset and righteously indignant at "immorality".
Assuming that the world was so much better in the 'good old days'.

Oh and the constant weight of expecting persecution. The constant repetition that the world is a bad place and people are bad.
I have never found that to be the case since leaving.

My life now - the best wedding I have ever been to was when two friends, Mark and Paul, got married.

It's such a relief not to be thinking about whatever the latest fad in the world is that I need to disapprove of.

I remember I used to pray to Jehovah every night and during the day for help to get me through the day. And it "worked".
Well now I don't pray at all, and do you know what? I still get through the day!
Satan doesn't make me lose my keys like some 'brothers and sisters' used to claim. "He made me late for meeting!".

I feel incredible sorrow that my family refuses to see or entertain that the truth is anything but.
But I am also aware that it doesn't really matter - I am not going to take their drug away from them.

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Party in the kingdom hall!

by StephaneLaliberte in

check it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.

SuperBoy

This works just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcj1-XFqBiE&feature=youtu.be

How strange that wordly songs and dancing are permitted now.

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The no voting/no political doctrine is very flawed!

by EndofMysteries in

you all know the doctrine, it's satan's system, can't participate, voting means putting faith in man instead of god, etc.

if so, if god put them in place, then he put faith in them to handle things to an extent and so if you happen to live in a country where people vote on how that government does things, should they not be voting?

now here is a real contradiction...... as the bible says, it's impossible to get outside of the world.

SuperBoy

I had no idea that voting was a matter of conscience.

You learn something new every day! (Once you've left the "truth"!)

The poor people of Malawi will be spinning in their graves.

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Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think?

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

jw
friends

we are up for a new kind of persecution in the future.

a new form that was unheard of for us.

in australia, disfellowshipped and dissasociated are planning on suing jw for emotional and mental hardship for being cast out completely.

SuperBoy

My first ever partner got really exasperated at the JWs: claiming it was "watertight" - there is no way to get in unless the person themselves starta to have doubts.

So you're not being persecuted? You're not doing it right! Result: unhappiness due to lack of persecution, inability to enjoy peaceful life. Doubts about strength of faith.

So you are undergoing persecution? Congratulations! Result: unhappiness due to persecution, inability to enjoy life, no doubts about faith.

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What is this new Announcement to take place in August?

by Quarterback in

just heard from an elder.

he told me that there is another change to be announced in august.

he didn't know more about it.. any other info?.

SuperBoy

I made it up.

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International Convention...Same Message, Same Emotional Manipulation

by HeyThere in

well, of course nothing else would be expected, but it passes me off.. for example, they show this short video that shows a child dying, shows her father crying as he visits her grave...and then she is reunited with her family in "the new system" and then it shows a handicapped girl who is sad she can't ice skate with friends...fast forward to tns, she can skate!!!

then an elderly couple is shown happily young again.... .

and of course the end is "so close!

SuperBoy

Ending the field service will get them a good five years grace as they wait for the end.

I can just imagine the buzz... Although I don't think it will happen as it's a great control method.

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International Convention...Same Message, Same Emotional Manipulation

by HeyThere in

well, of course nothing else would be expected, but it passes me off.. for example, they show this short video that shows a child dying, shows her father crying as he visits her grave...and then she is reunited with her family in "the new system" and then it shows a handicapped girl who is sad she can't ice skate with friends...fast forward to tns, she can skate!!!

then an elderly couple is shown happily young again.... .

and of course the end is "so close!

SuperBoy

I remember a convention that said we are so close to the end that we can no longer refer to it as 'just around the corner'.

Brothers! Sisters! Little Ones! WE ARE AROUND THE CORNER. We are staring the Great Tribulation IN THE EYE. Or somesuch. That was 20 years ago.
I know I know it's J-Time which is different from human time.

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How many of you hesitate because of the fear of God?

by braincleaned in

i turned atheist before i focused on the borg.

so being blasphemous is nothing to me; like they say, it's a victimless crime.. .

but how many of you stay put in fear of jehovah's judgement?.

SuperBoy

I remember years ago, when I was still a faithful JW - at 17 years old - going on a trip with college.

On one night we all went out to a nightclub. I had never been to a nightclub before, and was feeling very uneasy about it.

I rationalised that I didn't have to do anything I didn't want to.

We got to the nightclub - it was called Babylon. I kid you not. And you had to descend this spiral staircase to get to it!
I was appalled, but went anyway and had a great time.

But - at the time - I felt I had displeased Jehovah.
Even now, 13 years since I left, I still have "What If" moments - especially around newsworthy things on the world stage. Ukraine/Russia; the Middle East etc.

And then I remember how unhappy I was and it can't be the truth if it makes people so unhappy.

How can so many of us who have left have memories of the smugness, unfairness and simply bizarre behaviour of fellow JWs.
And if I saw that in every person I met I would be the first to say that I have the problem here. But that sect does attract nutcases.

And then I think well JWs might not have the true religion, but what if there is one?
And then I listen to Stewart Lee and Richard Herring, whose arguments about religion are a joy to listen to.

Things like, "Why would a god, who can never age, inflict aging on things he created? And watch it happening. Again and again."
"We're always told that we are just like ants to god. That's how small we are and yet he loves us. BUT IF YOU EVER, EVER, EVER ACT LIKE AN ANT THEN YOU WILL DIE!" "We are better than animals because we have freewill... BUT DON'T EVEN THINK OF EXERCISING IT IN A WAY THAT I DON'T APPROVE OF!"

I will be the biblical fool and proclaim that there is no god. So I live my life to this motto: Love Life, Be Kind.

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Jehovah Witness Governing Body gets 'wakeup call' - "The internal church process followed here was awful." - SNAP Media Statement

by Sol Reform in

jehovah witness governing body gets 'wakeup call' - "the internal church process followed here was awful.

" - snap media statement.

given the mean-spirited treatment by jw officials, it's a miracle that sewell's victims are willing to cooperate with the secular justice system.

SuperBoy

I cannot believe the reproach those sisters brought onto Jehovah's organisation!!!