first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
I just took the human metrics test and I got a slightly different result, ESFJ.
I think my first results with the 16 personalities test was more accurate and the questions I feel were worded better for me to comprehend and decide what to choose.
Also The thinking and feeling percentages were really close to neutral so I guess I'm borderline ESTJ or ESFJ.
first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
I got ESTJ-A (The Executive)
Extraverted- 41%
Observant-54%
Thinking-7%
Judging -34%
Assertive -14%
Role- Sentinel
Strategy- people mastery
I was a born in jdub and I think this is fairly accurate currently. Had I taken this test when still under the watchtowers thumb I know my results would have been way different, definitely an introvert result. I didn't start to be outgoing until I realized "worldly" people were just people and not under satans influence and that they don't bite so its ok to say hi. As I leave more and more of my old mindset behind I do see more positive changes to my personality. I will have to retake this test in the years to come to see if it stays or changes.
i have noticed that many lately have left the org or are in the process of leaving.
how many of you have left since 2015?.
this month will be my 21 years out of the org into the road of freedom.
i've been posting here a lot, but these last few weeks have been very difficult for me.
anyways, lately, i've been thinking about confessing everything i've done to the elders and going back, but deep down, i don't really think it's the truth...so my question is, what convinced you it wasn't the truth and that leaving wasn't a horrible decision that everyone in the truth makes it out to be?
It was hard learning about some of the inconsistencies about doctrines like the destruction of Jerusalem, was it 607 or 587 and then that correlated into 1914 dating and doctrine. I kept seeing that these things couldn't possibly be biblical, because remember there are no year dates in the bible it was all recorded as the 3rd year of so and so's reign or in the 40th year of this persons reign. I got a big question sign on my head thinking how could they apply a year date like 1914 when
1. Our calendar year wasn't adopted till way after those prophecies
2. The witnesses like to count the time of prophecy using the Jewish calendar which was only 360 days and then try and apply it to the modern 365 day calendar year.
It all just didn't add up or make sense so I started see it all as man's interpretation and not gods and according to the witnesses own publications we are not to follow man's interpretations.
But after researching and studying all this I still couldn't severe my thinking that even though they don't have it right as of now, they do have the ability to change and make it right, you know, "new light". Well it was the book crisis of conscience that helped me see there could be no way that these governing body men were guided by holy spirit. It helped me see The Truth About The Truth, that I was really following men and their organization and not god or the bible.
Final note to you laurenM, the witnesses do not have "the truth", it's a truth according to men. Don't play by man's rules, you are not beholding to man in any way. If you feel the need to Confess, say a prayer to god and confess it to him alone.
in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.
so what woke me up?
an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.
evening folks, so as some of you may know we have recently decided to leave the witnesses and can see it for the man made organisation it is.
so, why do i get the urge to go back and feel guilty for not being there!
it's like my mind is telling me to be logical about it all but then something keeps pulling me back.. don't get me wrong i really want to break free from it all and i'm resisting the urge to go back as i have been miserable in the truth for a long time as i've known it's not right and want to do the best by my daughter.
yep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.
and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.
almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.
a situation regarding this religion has developed which i fear might have negative implications on me and wifes lives, and i'm looking for thoughts and advice in how to approach the situation.
i'll start with some background information to enlighten the situation.. i'm a male in mid-twenties, raised secularly, married to an ex-jw woman (on paper still a jw though), who's been raised in the jw religion, although somewhat untheocratically shall i say.
for instance her mother has 5 children with 3 different men, all non-jws, and has had many other relationships as well.
Intervene, intervene, intervene and intervene now. If the sister and her boyfriend get involved it will be harder to talk to them later once the religion gets more of a firm hold and are in their heads. If they end of getting on the band wagon anyways at least then you will have planted some seeds that may grow or come to light down the road that may help them wake up.
i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?
feel free to list as many as you can think of!.
i'll start:.
"Bad association spoil useful habbits"
"We are a happy people"
"Our service is joyful"
"God's people are humble"
(eyeroll)
i wonder if the guy will get off the hook for murder since the jw died during surgery that he refused blood for.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/05/15/4526968/did-fresno-shooting-victims-religious.html.
I wonder if the guy will get off the hook for murder since the jw died during surgery that he refused blood for
http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/05/15/4526968/did-fresno-shooting-victims-religious.html
