Posts by UpAndAtom

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I'm a nervous wreck! (rant)

by MsMcDucket in

first they told me that my mother was in a persistent vegetative state, and that we (the family) should cut off her oxygen and feeding tubes.

i told them that it was too soon to be saying that or making this diagnosis.

they had my family believing this.

UpAndAtom

re: Are you saying then that your thyroid problem is hereditary?

Iodine deficiency gives rise to goiter. Adding small amounts of iodine to table salt (known as iodized salt) helps prevent goitre.

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Why I joined this forum...

by UpAndAtom in

<div>my very first visit to this website several years ago, was because i wanted to find out what the few surprises were going to be at the sydney 2003 convention.

(i have family that are jehovahs witnesses but i am not) .

it took a few months to sink in, but i gradually came to accept the real truth that these surprises are nothing of the sort.

It was only thanks to this forum and it's members that I fully appreciated just how important the printing business was to them. Ultimately however, it was the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves that showed their true colours. When I wasn't interested in their magazines, they were no longer interested in me. Pretty simple really. I had almost fogotten about Fallout Boy... thanks to Fleshybirdfodder & IP_SEC for reminding me. ha ha. However, the pun is a double-whammy for anyone that recognises the man in the photo.

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Why I joined this forum...

by UpAndAtom in

<div>my very first visit to this website several years ago, was because i wanted to find out what the few surprises were going to be at the sydney 2003 convention.

(i have family that are jehovahs witnesses but i am not) .

it took a few months to sink in, but i gradually came to accept the real truth that these surprises are nothing of the sort.

UpAndAtom

<div>My very first visit to this website several years ago, was because I wanted to find out what the “few surprises” were going to be at the Sydney 2003 convention. (I have family that are Jehovah’s Witnesses but I am not)

It took a few months to sink in, but I gradually came to accept the “real truth” that these surprises are nothing of the sort. There is nothing surprising, shocking and in most cases, nothing new at all.

Here’s some things that have stuck in my mind these past few years.

They are a publishing company.
Their members are called publishers.
Non-publishers aspire to become publishers.
They have territories and quotas.
Members are kept very busy attending meetings to read books and magazines.
Without regular printing of magazines, the members would have nothing to do.
They perform no charity work of any kind. You can only contact them to arrange for a sales person to contact you regarding the possibility of becoming a sales person yourself.
Detailed statistics are kept on all areas relating to business. The number of people fed, clothed, or helped in any material way is not kept. It has no bearing on the business at all.
Members learn how to sell magazines and their stories.
I was surprised to hear at a baptism that new members must pledge allegiance to Jehovah AND the publishing company. Without doing both, you cannot get baptised.
Initially, they do not introduce themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses when at the door, but instead engage in some kind of banter inside the latest issue.
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Im nearly 666 posts

by barry in

jw
friends

anyone have any problems when they reached 666 posts im not superstitious but it is the number of the beast if i remember correctly

UpAndAtom

Concatenate each symbol of the Roman numerals (excluding M=1000) D C L X V I = 666

Is also equal to the sum of the squares of the first 7 primes.
2^2 + 3^2 + 5^2 + 7^2 + 11^2 + 13^2 + 17^2 = 666

Consider the following "sequence" of digits both forwards and then backwards:
1+2+3+4+567+89 == 666
or
123+456+78+9 = 666
or
9+87+6+543+21 = 666

"The Golden Ratio" = -2sin(666)
or
"The Golden Ratio" = -2cos(6 * 6 * 6)

... and there are so many others, but they start getting complicated. The Golden Ratio is probably the most interesting to me personally. Wasn't there something about this and the Pyramids in the early history of the WatchTower/Bible Students?

The beast is a mathematician. You can fear this beast like you feared your final year maths exam! ha ha.

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JonBenet Ramsey's Mother Dies

by Mary in

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i was really shocked to see this headline this morning....patsy ramsey died this morning at the age of 49 of ovarian cancer....i always wondered what happened there; whether she and her husband actually killed their daughter, or if someone else broke into the house and murdered her.......while family members are always high on the list of suspects when something like this happens, i tend to think that john and patsy ramsey were falsely accused of murdering their daughter, as there appeared to be no motive.

anyone think they did kill her?

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Learn how to interpret the Ramsey's press releases as seen through the eyes of the FBI and law enforcement across the world.

http://www.lsiscan.com/ (browse to scan reports)

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Why does "god" permit evil, wickedness and tragic misfortune??

by Shining One in

i don't know of anyone who can answer this question totally but i do like this man's response!

i've posted the link to this before.

rex .

UpAndAtom

The greater the truth - the shorter the explanation. Jesus was a master at this.

What is evil?

Rebellion.

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only begotten Son?

by UpAndAtom in

if jesus was the only begotten son of god, who then was adam and melchizadek's father?

has this question ever been raised before?

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Narkissos, I especially like your reasoning here; and Leolaia I have not heard the phrase "self-generated" before. Interesting... What if all this talk about resurrection was in fact reincarnation? Could it be that the words (which lets face it, seem similar) got mixed up somehow? Did one spirit (the only Son) come back (resurrect/reincarnat) and take up new bodies for different purposes?

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only begotten Son?

by UpAndAtom in

if jesus was the only begotten son of god, who then was adam and melchizadek's father?

has this question ever been raised before?

UpAndAtom

If Jesus was the only begotten Son of God, who then was Adam and Melchizadek's father? Has this question ever been raised before?

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silent lambs has failed..

by the mole in

if any one has been a regular such as i have in the silent lambs site you will have noticed it has changed for the worse..as of last week i decided to withdraw from my membership...the site was designed by bill to vent, explain and devulge abuse that we have witnessed or experienced..as in my case as a former m.s i had seen two coverups in my hall...the parents to afraid to go to the police and the elders screaming jehovah will leave them if they tell on the org is the crime i had to bare with..so i spoke up and left the org...silent lambs was for that reason...now.

it has mutated to a cheap lowlevel site for apologist and non witness who want to argue on unrelated topics..to top it off bill has given the site to an editor who is so silly and more involved than the participants why bother anymore....to bill..you lost your way...

UpAndAtom

there's another bunch of people who need to realise it's a bunch of binary ZEROS AND ONES.

Only some people will understand.

I agree, I see many people here that seem to live on the Internet and it stagnates and polarizes their thinking. This is a worrying trend as people seem to think the Internet contains better quality information than that found elsewhere.

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CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH??

by Terry in

the truth!

is there a greater value anywhere?

knowing what's what and what's not may be the most important thing humans can know.

UpAndAtom

That is a smile of people who've stuffed Truth into their biscuits and sweetened their tea with it!

Ha ha! So true.