Fahim, my friend, is now an Apostate to ISLAM

by Terry 27 Replies latest members adult

  • Terry
    Terry

    I met Fahim (Afghani Muslim) about 13 years ago when I was a regular customer at Starbucks where he was Manager.

    I'd go every morning and sit at a large table where people from all walks of life would gather to chat, argue and pound the table.

    It was fun and I got to know people from many different countries.

    Fast forward....

    I use to go to the Dallas Fort Worth Chess Club on Tuesdays and one evening I saw Fahim come in.

    He walked up to me and said, "You look familiar--do I know you?"

    I said, "Do you ever go to the Post Office? Maybe my photo was on the Most Wanted list they have on the bulletin board there!"

    We ended up playing chess and I beat him the very first game! He was stunned. He is a great player.

    (Of course, 500 games later I've yet to beat him again!! But, I won't mention that because it is embarassing.)

    Fahim is from Afghanistan and so is his family. They are all Muslim. My wife (at the time) was Jewish and so (by birth) were my 3 kids.

    So, naturally I was eager to get our families together! My wife was sweating it, too! But, I had been to Fahim's house several times and

    I knew him to be a Prince of a fellow with great intelligence and a wonderful family man. We had long fun-filled conversations about everything.

    The food provided was a feast by any standard. The hospitality is legendary, too!

    I told him about my previous life as a Jehovah's Witness and told him how completely disenchanted I was with ALL formal religion. He listened and understood.

    He had Muslim prayers on his wall in Arabic (from the Koran) and he explained their meaning to me. We talked about Islam.

    Fast Forward...

    9/11 came and within 6 months Fahim was out of a job at Starbucks.

    It was a pretext, to be sure! So, my Muslim friend sought other employment and ended up as a restaurant Manager for Taco Cabana.

    He worked long hours and made pretty good money but he never failed to make time for me and my family.

    We had many discussions about God, religion, politics and fanaticism.

    Fahim was fortunate in that his father was a peace-loving man who would not even swat a fly if he could find a way to remove it from his house otherwise.

    He taught Fahim that "unless you can create life you should be very reluctant to end it---even for the tiniest insect!"

    Fast Forward....

    Fahim's job took him out of Texas all the way to Oklahoma. We lost touch.

    I divorced from my wife and started a new job within a year after he had left.

    By 2010 I completely retired.

    Meanwhile, Fahim had seen an opportunity to go to Afghanistan and become a high-paying translator of Pharsee for the U.S. Army.

    He remained for 2 years and moved back at the end of last year.

    He tried to renew contact but I had moved and my phone number had changed. He never stopped trying, however.

    About a week ago I got a "friend request" on FACEBOOK from Fahim!

    We PM'd and exhanged phone numbers and spoke for hours renewing acquaintance.

    He had earned quite a bit of money working in Afghanistan and he had saved most of it. He bought a used car dealership in Ft.Worth

    when he returned and has been in business for about 3 months. He invited me to come by and visit him.

    Well, he looks healthy, tanned and trim and his sense of humor is in top form.

    One thing changed, however. Fahim now describes himself as an atheist an an infidel to Islam!

    Being there in his former home city and talking to the locals and dealing with the outrageous fanaticism rampant among his former fellows turned

    him sour on the whole idea of True Islam. He told me all the moderate people have fled for their lives. Only the crazies remain. His home town is completely gone--vanished like a dream that never was.

    He explained to me that he had never actually read the Koran, but, had grown up with it everywhere naturally accepted as the spoken true word of Allah.

    His arguments with the radical Islamists in his native language made him wonder how they could have so warped the teachings of Muhammed.

    So, he read every word over the two year period!

    His conclusions are very interesting to me. I thought I'd share them with you.

    He told me he realized what the problem with Islam is. It is the moderates who are totally confused! The Koran is not teaching peace and love at all. It is the fanatics who are correctly representing what the teachings of Muhammed are: violent and bloody extermination of the NON-believers in every OTHER religion! And he suddenly knew he could not have any connection with it--OR a God who displayed such a mindset!

    It was an awakening. It parallels much of my own experience with Jehovah's Witnesses, of course. The feelings of betrayal and having been taught lies...I could understand very well what he had gone through!

    His family refers to him as "The Infidel." He argues with them and shows them in the Koran that if they REALLY believed the words of the prophet they would have to KILL HIM. And by not doing so--they too are infidel!

    Well, all this is quite fascinating.

    We ex-JW's think WE have it tough:)

    Fahim understands that the True Believers in any religion are the ones causing most of the misery on the planet. He is now an advocate for NO religion at all and believes the only chance for peace on Earth is for people to wake up and make their own decisions based on common sense!

    He offered me a job at his car dealership, too. I haven't been employed in about a year and a half--so, it will be great to have an opportunity to spend time with him in conversation and perhaps earn some money trying to sell used cars.

    Anyway.....

    I thought I'd share this with you for what it is worth!

  • designs
    designs

    Great story, more people need to be educated on the religion they are raised with (we finally did). Nice to see you reconnect after all these years.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Really interesting experience, Terry.

    This lends substantiation to thoughts I've had lately based on personal observation and efforts to educate myself more on various topics, including religion.

    I believe that what is happening with Jehovah's Witnesses and the WT organization is a microcosm of what is happening in religion generally. I have relatives who are still active JW, and they've told me that in the door-to-door work they're meeting more people that are seeing the hypocrisy in their own religion and are leaving. They want only to read their Bible and follow the simple message of Jesus.

    They've concluded, as Fahim did, that if the hypocrisy, hierarchy and trampling of good people in religion is truly god's system, they want nothing to do with it.

    Interesting how this phenomenon is crossing religious lines beyond Christianity.

    Of course, there will always be zealots and fanatics, but I think truly genuine people are waking up to the destructive aspects of their respective religion and feel a growing distaste for what they see.

  • LoisLane looking for Superman
    LoisLane looking for Superman

    Hi Terry, Thanks for sharing. It is interesting to hear the views, from an Islamatic insider. I am glad, for him, that his family is taking his "apostasy" well.

    I wish you and your old friend much success in your new business venture together.

    Just Lois

  • zeb
    zeb

    He sounds a great but humble man chrish his friendship.

    Afghanistan? If anyone would be an expert on what is happening there on all levels he would.

    Cherish him and his family

  • free @ last
    free @ last

    Very interesting about your friend having reached ripe middle age and never having read the main holy book of his faith. At least I'd read the bible cover to cover by my late teens/early twenties and realized it left much to be desired. On my second try reading it cover to cover without wt 'aids to understanding' I realized what a contradictory, misogynistic, mythical waste of good tree pulp it mostly was.

    I got a copy of the Koran like a decade ago and have made several attempts to read it through. Have not yet been successful... it's tediously repetitive. I feel like I must at least read it once though before reaching the same conclusions on its worth as I did about the Christian bible.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Thanks for sharing your story about your friend Terry. Its good to put a human face to followers of Islam because when we do, we discover that aside from the fanatics...most are no different to us. They are mislead and manipulated into believing the religion of their birth.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Of interest to me that the "true" teaching is the bad one and merely a distortion of evil men.

    That is food for thought, indeed.

    We catch a glimpse of what I called bible-god in the pages of scripture and in the O.T. it is pretty scary.

    Suddenly--whoosh! In the N.T. "He" is a voice offstage rubber-stamping the exploits of the fella from Galilee.

  • 5go
    5go

    I was going to comment but seeing as it looks like you aren't converting him to Christianity (the Cult of Death) have nothing to say. As much as I dislike Islam they don't have a huge history of killing each other over petty grievnces. In fact the only one I can remember was over the succesionary line from the prophet out side of that to a lesser degree what Christianity has done which is kill infidels. In fact the Ottomans even protected the Eastern Orthodox church from the Roman Catholic Crussades sent agaist them. Them being the Church not the Turks as at that time even the Roman knew attacking the Turks was futile.

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    Terry, just a warning

    brother, a Muslim is allowed to lie and say they are not a Muslim if they are on a special mission or trying to get converts via a occult methods. I read some older writings on the methods they used to spread Islam in Europe, they pretended to have given up on Islam, drank alcoholic beverages and even ate pork. The goal of the group from this particular sect in Shia Islam was to demonstrate how normal Islam was but they had a trick of doing a full reversal to get the people back in line once their period of "special mission" was over.

    I am trying to remember the books I read on this and how the actual opperations are taken on. I thought I had a new friend, he claimed to be a "Apostate" until I saw him in the local newspaper when they opened up a Mosque. He spoke thirty percent negative things about Islam but would come back with many merits. I felt a bit deceived by his actions because he know I was trying to be a Christian and attempted to con me out. Call me paranoid or but his actions were right out of the old 1970s book on spreading Islam while claiming to not be a Muslim. I use to drive to a nice chess club in Fresno and sit back and play for hours with a group of good guys. My highest rating was well over USCF 2000 or FIDE 1984 "Master is 2200+ and GM is over 2500" when I was young, so the Club allowed me free access if I taught the youth. I quit the game because it burned up too much time and most JWs thought it was a game of War! See how they screw our minds up and take away games we love?

    You are a seasoned pro, so I guess this post in worthless chatter. peace to you Terry!

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