Because They Treat People Like Sh*t!

by metatron 35 Replies latest jw friends

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    jgnat:

    In this case, it seems the local body has gone "beyond what is written" to make congregation life miserable for my husband.

    Wow, such a loving Christian act, hypocrites!

    I saw the exact same thing happen in the area I lived in. If a family was weak and not regular meeting attenders they were left out of any "outside" functions that went on and one elder in particular told me "if they can't make the meetings why should they be invited to the fun stuff afterwords?" My reply was "maybe for some encouragement?" He thought I was odd!

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    This may 'reveal' too much info. But I have already done that, so if the elders wanted to figure out who I was, they could have by now anyway.

    This is precisely what began our search and finally 'got us out of the borg'. I am speaking of the Lack Of Love.

    Our DF'd daughter came to us around New Years 1999. She was pregnant, was drug addicted, had no job, not a penny to her name, no place to live, and had burned out her friendship with most her friends. In short, she was desperate beyond belief. As witnesses forever we had a massive conflict on our hands - do we take her in? - or do we follow the society's hard line on DF'd ones?

    Well, we are human - and we do love our daughter in spite of her leaving the religion of Jehovah's witnesses, and no matter aht she has done wrong. So we took her in. She needed medical care, love, and the type of encouragement to get through this period that comes best from parents. She stayed 3 months, until late March. Still not comfortable for either us or her, she moved in with a friend at that time.

    Lo' and Behold - come the end of May, a full five months since we let her move in, and a full two months since she left. Here comes Brothers Self Righteous and Hollier Than Thou. They were there to 'investigate' our decision, and particuarly how it would impact my postion on the servant body. They proposed several alternatives that we could have done instead of actually being parents - among them a suggestion that we could have rented her an apartment so that we didn't have to actually see her daily. They were completely uninterested in the situation she had been in - that it was -20 outside was of no interest to them - that she was suicidal was of no interest to them - that she needed her Mother to love her unconditionally for a while was of no interest to them at all.

    So I provided them with an opportunity to look at the 80 or so articles that I had compiled on a floppy disk at my computer to see that I had researched the WT articles well -and could actually point to a few points that would support our decision to take her in - They weren't even interested in that - never looked at it. They had already made up thier minds as to what they were there to do - inform me that they would be deleting me from the servant body.

    Then it hit me - the circuit overseer would be there next week - they were are my house 6 days before the CO visit. The so called 'offense' was committed 5 months before - but the reason they were there was to make a good name with the CO. Nothing more - they did not make any effort to 'restore' us to God's favor - never read a single scripture that I recall. We had broken the rules and we had to pay for that somehow.

    When the CO left - and I was no longer on the servant body - a few weeks later Brother Self-Righteous was made the new Presiding Overseer. So he got his reward for a job well done. He had made the rounds and made sure that three very good and loving brothers were deleted on that visit. He was 'cleaning house' - and got the reward for that he was looking for. What a bastard!!!

    We knew in the back of our minds at that point that something was absolutely wrong. It took about 5 years more before we finally came across Franz's books and made the break.

    So this lack of love can be a good thing. It opens eyes. Even those like ours that were blinded for all our lives with the 'Truth'!

    So let them dump the sh*t on the flock - it sets men free!!!!

    Jeff

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    (((((AK-Jeff))))) I never knew this about you. Thank you for sharing. You did a good thing by taking your daughter in. My parents would never and HAVE never done that. My worldly coworkers, whom weren't even "friends", were kinder to my than my own parents...they took me in for months until I could get on my feet. Even though a relationship with my parents has reconnected this past summer, it's something I find VERY hard to forgive them for. My father has not ONCE apologized for kicking me out of his life.

  • Gill
    Gill

    (((((((AK - Jeff and Wife)))))))) Well Done! That's the way it should be. I'm glad it brought you freedom.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    There is an old scripture which sticks in my mind which says something to the tune of 'if a man doesnt provide/care for his family then he is worse than a man without faith and that applies to you AK...you had the bottle to use your own human conscience as opposed to submitting to the WTS legalism and authoritarianism and I am so pleased you did what you did.

    I have always held the belief that if someone you care about is making mistakes in their life its a signal to you to spend more time with them rather than ostracising them and hopefully they will see the error of their ways; the WTS however does not even take this into account essentially they are only concerned with removing those people who have had the independence to go their own way and could subvert others to do the same also; it isnt about scriptual rehabilitation its about control.

    Even when someone does express a wish to be reinstated they deal with such matters in such an abusive way its almost akin to being beaten into submission or back into the WTS line.

    I know someone who was recently reinstated and have an insight into how they feel when they are finally given the go ahead; in every circumstances the WTS puts a positive spin on something completely negative and demoralising....how lucky we are to be out of the fire.

    DB74

  • Golf
    Golf

    AK-Jeff, read your experience, very pitiful. My philosphy has already remained the same since youth. NO love, I'm gone.

    Witnesses do not come NEAR the LOVE that is spoken of in 1 Cor.13. "Love... does not behave indecently, does not look for its interests,.. It does not keep 'account' of the injury."

    Believe me, what goes around does come around.


    Golf

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Interesting, during our long walk last weekend, I chatted with my JW hubby what a blessing my five year old granddaughter is to both our lives. I speculated out loud what kind of relationship I would have with her today if I had been a good JW. You see, Naomi was conceived out of wedlock. When I found out (and got over the shock), I did what needed to be done. I bought vitamin E cream and folic acid for my daughter and was there at her side when Naomi was born eight months later. I was a mom.

    I asked hubby, what would I have done if I was a good JW? Shunned my daughter during her pregnancy? Would I enjoy the wonderful relationship today if I had rejected her then?

  • Dansk
    Dansk
    I'm often tempted to tell them , "wouldn't it be great if the organization acted like Christians?" - but that might be

    too much for them to grasp.



    Absolutely spot on, metatron!

    Honesty, I agree. Why suffer on the inside when one can be outside and truly free. One doesnst need to stick around on the inside while knowing the Borg are going down the tubes. I'd rather be outside and watching - and ready to help those who will undoubtedly be crushed and need succour; something my family and I never received during the whole 19 years we were in. Pain we received in plentiful supply. Love - never!

    Jeff, a very moving post and one many of us can identify with. Mine is in reverse. My younger daughter (and her older sister) disowned us and left home after my wife, two sons and I exited. I know she suffered by not staying with us, although she won't admit it was caused by the JWs. I'm her main targetman. I am blamed for this, that and the other - and yet it is we, her true family, who have helped her out of her predicament. Already I can see how much better she is looking and how more relaxed she is.

    Since a nosy elder's wife who took my daughter "under her wing" after we exited has been on holiday my daughter has missed all the meetings and associated with worldly friends from her place of work. She has also been to the cinema with my wife and younger son and also to the theatre - twice - with my wife, my wife's sister and my wife's sister's daughter. However, now that the nosey elder's wife is soon back off holiday my daughter is reverting back to her JW ways again. Just goes to show, it isn't necessarily the Borg that has the hold but some of the people in it!

    If I could get my daughter out of the grasp of the elder's wife I know all would be ok. Then, perhaps, even my older daughter might see sense, although as she is married to a ministerial servant that will be difficult. I haven't seen my older daughter for three years now.

    In a way what the Borg is doing is no bad thing from our point of view. It is alienating more and more people from its ranks. Soon there'll be no-one left but the old steadfast ones who wouldn't leave (to save face?) if the truth hit them squarely in the mouth like a brick. I'm only sorry so many thousands of people have been sorely injured by this heinous organisation before the advent of the internet. So much information on Watchtower's dastardly deeds is all too evident these days that it no longer has anywhere to run and hide. It's own writings and deeds are being its own nemesis. And about time!!

    Ian

  • joanne_
    joanne_

    jgnat, the way they are treating your husband...this could be a blessing in disguise. he may soon be walking out.

    joanne

  • joanne_
    joanne_

    jeff, you did the right thing in the eyes of God and thats all that matters in the end.

    joanne

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