Subliminal messages and the "nodding off" mind

by Lady Lee 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    OK I know there are all kinds of educational tapes you can get to help you learn better and faster. Many of them are tapes you put on and then go to sleep. The rationale is that it is easier to learn while you are sleeping.

    Hmmmm this got me thinking.

    Those meetings were so boooring. About the only thing that kept me away were the kids or translaing (sign language).

    When you have heard the same thing over and over and over in a stuffy closed room where there are few distractions (even counting ceiling tiles gets boring after a while) it is so easy to nod off.

    Most of the people giving talks begin to sound alike. After a while it just numbs the mind.

    I have to wonder about the effect on our minds. I know repitition is one of the mind control techniques. But I think this half-asleep mind state must play a huge part of it too.

    Any ideas about this?

  • TopHat
    TopHat

    Lady Lee? When you were translaing (sign language). Did you ever change the words of the speaker into your own thoughts?

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    Did you ever change the words of the speaker into your own thoughts?

    No.

  • Scully
    Scully

    If I remember correctly, when someone is doing Sign Language Interpretation at a convention, there is someone else who understands ASL and is checking the interpreter for accuracy. If you botched it badly enough, you'd get replaced.

    There is a state of sleepiness when people are very receptive to suggestion, Lee. I forget exactly what it is, but I do remember the trance-like quality that the speakers could induce. It was usually the ones that avoided making "excited" expressions, and kept their voices very calm and even toned (without being totally monotone).

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Scully I started interpreting long before they started all the controls on it. I think because I was teaching it to others I was the one who was checking the other interpreters. Most of the ones who really did badly dropped out. They knew it was hard and they were making mistakes. One elder however, drove me crazy. He made every word twice. It was as if he was trying to interpret to babies and needed everything said twice. Sort like like this this. Drove me wiild but I couldn't say anything to him cuz I was a sister.. The deaf elders just assigned him when they had to. I think it drove them nuts too.

    There is a state of sleepiness when people are very receptive to suggestion, Lee. I forget exactly what it is, but I do remember the trance-like quality that the speakers could induce. It was usually the ones that avoided, making "excited" expressions, and kept their voices very calm and even toned (without being totally monotone).

    That's exactly what I mean. I don't know what it is called either but I think it winds up reinforcing all the crap.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I've long been of the opinion that this is part of their mind control strategy. A person at the meeting, half asleep, in a near hypnotic state, is hearing everything yet evaluating nothing. I never did personal study. I never prepared for meetings. I dozed off during most meetings and assemblies. Yet I always had a perfect score for the written reviews.

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  • Ingenuous
    Ingenuous

    The Watchtower Indoctrination Process

    Repetition and Emphasis

    Repetition is a potent method used to drive home the interpretations of the Governing Body. Few people notice that the same questions and concepts are repeated over and over. Yet this constant emphasis on certain ideas serves as a kind of 'Witness Catechism'. Let us see how this works during the free Bible study.

    A day or two before the study, each article or chapter being studied is first read through privately by the student. Questions appear at the bottom of each page, corresponding to each paragraph in the text. The student then underlines the answers. Almost invariably, each question has a one-sentence answer in the paragraph. Finding the answer means scanning the paragraph a second time. Underlining the sentence means reading it a third time.

    During the study, your study conductor will read the paragraph out loud (or ask you to do it). This makes the fourth time you've heard each of the underlined sentences. She will then ask you for the answer, which you will read from the book.

    Thus, you will have read the answer five times before you are done with it.

    If you're an average reader, you will have memorized the sentence by the second or third read. Your attention will wander slightly during the fourth or fifth read. Herein lies the danger: you will not be paying attention to what is being said.

    This is rote learning, such as you use to memorize the multiplication tables. By repeating the same answers over and over, you place them deeply into your memory. You actually become bored with the answer and wish to move on to something else. As a result, you do not question the answer.

    Most ex-JW's (ex-Jehovah's Witnesses) identify "boredom" as one of the worst features of that religion. The constant repetition is uninspiring, and it never lets up. A topic you have studied one month may pop up in slightly different form the next, and once again you are repeating the same canned answers (perhaps with slightly different wording).

    The effect is almost hypnotic. When you are in a trance-like state, (brought on by boredom or repetition), your mind goes into 'automatic mode', and reactions are instinctive rather than critical.

    For example, if you drive a car along a long, undifferentiated highway, your mind will wander. Eventually you will arrive at your destination and not remember how you got there. One way of looking at it is that you had no decisions to make along the way. You were, as the saying goes, "a million miles away" -- in the car in body but not in spirit.

    Actually, the Watchtower literature is quite well written, given its purpose of informing a wide range of people at various levels of education. It uses simple language -- you will seldom need to consult a dictionary. But even this lack of challenge can put one to sleep. For most people, the sheer simplicity of the writing removes the thrill and challenge of reading.

    Jehovah's Witnesses have been accused of preying upon ignorant, uneducated people. It is probably more accurate (and less cynical) to say that their literature can be easily understood by anybody.

    Asked and Answered

    One could analyse Watchtower literature in many ways to show how it bends one's mind to accepting what is written without question, but that is outside the scope of this article. I will limit myself to describing one more technique.

    Watchtower literature has a peculiar tendency to ask a question and then answer it immediately afterwards. It does this relentlessly, and the question/answer combination does not give you time to think about the answer you've been offered, since by the time you've read the answer, you're well into the next sentence.

    Here is an example, taken at random by flipping open a copy of the September 1 1996 issue of The Watchtower. On page 14 it says:

    What is the purpose of this covenant? It is to produce a nation of kings and priests to bless all mankind. (Exodus 19:6; 1 Peter 2:9; Revelation 5:10) The Mosaic Law covenant never produced this nation in the fullest sense...

    Ignore the actual text for a moment and notice how the question is asked, then answered, then followed by a string of verses to look up in the Hebrew and Christian scriptures. If you decide to look these up, you will be looking for proof that the statement just made was correct. More likely, you will do what most people do: "blip" over the verses, thinking, "I guess they apply or they wouldn't have listed them", and move on to the next sentence.

    In neither case will you stop and say, "Wait a minute, was that assertion correct?" This is especially true if you encounter the statement during a bible study or meeting; nobody is going to wait for you to weigh the pros and cons.

    Of course, all commentaries must make assertions and then back them up. But why does Watchtower literature use this particular question/answer style so frequently?

    One possibility is that the Governing Body deliberately invented the question/answer techniques (i.e. "underlining" and "immediate answers") to hypnotize people and bend them to their will. I do not believe the Governing Body is that cynical.

    A more credible reason is that these techniques reflect an element of Witness culture. Witnesses acquire the belief that for every question there is one "true" answer. If the Governing Body (speaking through the literature) poses a question, they are expected to provide an answer. Witnesses do not like "gray areas". One of the chief benefits of being a Witness is that you have answers for everything.

    Many of the answers may not be true, but they are answers. In a life full of doubt and uncertainty, a Witness gains enormous peace of mind simply by believing that there are men who "know". They may occasionally have to live contrary to their nature, or ignore a nagging doubt, but the reward is a feeling of certainty.

    In other words, the Governing Body is giving the Witnesses precisely what they want to have.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    I've long been of the opinion that this is part of their mind control strategy. A person at the meeting, half asleep, in a near hypnotic state, is hearing everything yet evaluating nothing. I never did personal study. I never prepared for meetings. I dozed off during most meetings and assemblies. Yet I always had a perfect score for the written reviews.

    wow. Mind you there is so much repetition that it would be hard to not do well but that is really interesting

  • Ingenuous
    Ingenuous

    Stories from the ICC: The Story of Tony Adams

    1. During the study it became obvious that there were so many issues that needed re-evaluation. To extricate myself from this position seemed an impossible and insurmountable task, and even if my life depended on it, I was in no state to attempt it. This was it, an information overload, the extremity of anxiety, the end of my tether, the crux of the crisis. As a result, a part of me shut down.

    This is a natural psychological defence mechanism that has been observed and measured through much careful psychological research. The brain, as we switch from agitation to shutdown, changes from our normal state of consciousness to what is called an alpha state, a mild hypnotic trance-like state similar to that when one is meditating, or intently listening to music. The catch however, is that one becomes over twenty times more susceptible to any incoming information while in an alpha state.
    1. The techniques for inducing a low level mass hypnotic state are well known by many mental health professionals and professional hypnotists. The effectiveness of these techniques is still being debated. From my experience, I can testify that such techniques appear to be quite effective on emotionally vulnerable people.

    A low level hypnotic state can be induced quite effectively in an environment with a heightened level of excitement or emotional intensity. Introducing confusion in such an environment can radically reduce one's critical faculties; logical double binds can effectively neutralise them. For more information, I refer the reader to Dangerous Persuaders by Louise Samways - her bibliography is also very useful.
    1. There are many other much less abusive ways, to induce an alpha state. Hypnotists do it all the time, but they are required by their own standards of ethics to inform people of what they are doing, and to have their permission to do it. A psychiatrist who does not comply with these standards, can be deregistered, ie. lose their right to practice.

    In the Boston Movement, no one knows that they are modifying people's belief systems through inducing an alpha state, so no one seeks the victim's permission, and no one informs the victim of what it is that is being done to them. Members of the Boston Movement simply know that the method worked on them, and that it works on new recruits.
    Everyone in cults make their decisions to remain, decisions to participate in the group's activities, and decisions to reject any doubts, while being completely unaware of this "tilted playing field".
  • daystar
    daystar

    Alpha is a good place to insert programming:

    http://www.hypno-meditation.com/brain_waves.htm

    http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/eeg.html

    Just throwing out a couple sites I did a quick google on. I don't mean to promote either of them.

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