Re: Judah Ben Schroeder

by sf 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  teejay

  To Prisca, MadApostate and hank,

  I'm confused. Seriously.

  I don't know any of the biggees at Bethel. Never have. Skally may very well be barking up the wrong tree in her search for info on Judah -- I wouldn't know. But, is there NO connection between Russell and the Masons? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but as for the sites who promote such a link: how are they hurting "the cause"? And, what *IS* the cause?

  AGAIN, I call for XJWs to clean up their act. Promoting LIES about the WTS does nothing but HELP the WTS, and HARMS the "cause".

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  Hank: I haven't seen any worthwhile research...

  Maybe you could post some?

  If you want to stir up genuine discussions...

  Maybe you could show us how?

  tj
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  MadApostate

  The "cause" is dissemination of TRUTH about "the troooth".

  The only "connection" (and it isn't technically a connection), between Russell and the Masons is that both had/have interests in the Egyptian Pyramids. Russell was one of the most prominent "pyramidologists", with other prominent "pyramidologists" (Morton Edgar) also being Watchtower Society Officers.

  The Masons' history and ideology also include stuff about the Egyptian pyramids.

  Since both groups have used Egyptian icons/symbols, some conspiratists have tried to say that Russell's source of such was the Masons, when in fact, the two groups are using the same source- Egyptology.
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  teejay

  So... there's NO connection between Russell and the Masons (other than their similar history/interest in pyramidology)?
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  MadApostate

  TJ:

  I'm not sure what you are asking??? Are you looking to argue semantics- ie the meaning of the word "connection"?

  Who knows, Russell probably slept in a hotel owned by a Mason, traveled in a taxi driven by a Mason, wore a suit tailored by a Mason??? Other, than the common denominator of Egyptian icons/symbols used by both Russell and Masonry, I know of no other meaningful info.

  Yesterday, there was a very good post by Chasson(?), who had researched Masonic history in the Pittsburgh area, and he uncovered nothing which would indicate Russell or his father were Masons. Take a look.
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  teejay

  MadApostate,

  I'm not sure what you are asking??? Are you looking to argue semantics- ie the meaning of the word "connection"?

  No, MA, I do not argue semantics.

  I was under the impression that Russell may have been 'connected' with Masonry in the sense of having studied with or been a member of - , that's all. I got that impression from a cursory research on some of the exjw sites. I may have mentioned: I don't care either way, just curious. I know all *I* will ever need to know about Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, etal.

  When you said, "Chasson had researched Masonic history in the Pittsburgh area and uncovered nothing which would indicate Russell or his father were Masons," that was all I needed to hear. That was the 'connection' I was asking about. As far as you know, Russell was never a Mason.

  Thank you.

  peace,
  tj