Anonymous online payment

by IT Support 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • IT Support
    IT Support

    Further to my thread on Anonymous domain name registration, does anyone have any experience of using anonymous online payment systems?

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    It'll put an obscure line on your Credit Card statement, then the "product" will arrive in a brown paper parcel

    That was what you were asking about, right?

  • googlemagoogle
    googlemagoogle

    how anonymous? i'm pretty happy with paypal...

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    You open up a Paypal account using whatever business name you want. Then you create your Paypal website payment buttons to link to that account. You will not be able to withdraw any funds you receive in that account until you link either a bank account or credit card to that Paypal account. However, your customers will not know what bank acct/cc is linked to the Paypal account. Paypal will know though. Nothing is 100% anonymous.

    These things I know because I have business web sites and I did everything possible to avoid having my personal name available to the public for identity theft/lack of privacy.

    You've got my curiosity piqued. What is this all about?

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    I think what IT is looking for is a means to pay the bill for a website without the hosting service knowing where the payment is coming from.

    I'll have think about this for awhile...

    Maybe Western Union.....

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Yeah, Elsewhere, I was thinking maybe W. U. Bidpay could be used...

    To run with the idea Rebel8 offered,

    You open up a Paypal account using whatever business name you want.

    Then you create your Paypal website payment buttons to link to that account.

    You will not be able to withdraw any funds you receive in that account until you link either a bank account or credit card to that Paypal account.

    However, your customers will not know what bank acct/cc is linked to the Paypal account.

    Paypal will know though.

    Nothing is 100% anonymous.

    If you are setting up the PayPal account solely for the purpose of making payments, not being able to withdraw funds is a non-issue. If it became an issue, I would simply arrange to send a "payment" to a trusted co-conspirator's "clean" paypal account. This other account would have to have no obvious links to your account.

    I would suggest that you open up a NEW bank account that is not the one you use to pay your mortgage and household bills from, and use that account only for your Paypal adventures. I would also suggest signing up for a new credit card to be used the same way - ONLY for paypal. For either account, it might be nice to have a post office box or a private postal company listed as your address.

    The art of invisibility is not as easy as Ninja movies make it seem, but it IS achievable.

    Think like a Non-Obvious-Relationship-Analysis query in reverse.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    I found this service: http://www.internetcash.com

    http://www.internetcash.com/fgo/0,1383,white02,00.html

    2.2 How InternetCash™ Guarantees Anonymity
    As briefly explained in the previous section, InternetCash™ is a true privacy-protecting payment method. Formally, the anonymity on InternetCash™ transactions is provided via the anonymous "loading channel": at purchasing time, ie., when the user funds an anonymous account, the user does not disclose his/her identity. This is in contrast to DigiCash-like e-cash schemes [Ch82] where the user does disclose his/her identity, but the identity is subsequently blinded during the funding process. See figure 1 for a description.

    Figure 1: Anonymity provisioning using InternetCash™.

    The anonymous loading channel provides the following advantages to InternetCash™-based anonymous purchases:

    • Complete privacy. As noted before, there is a very compelling argument that you cannot disclose what you do not have! And since the individuals' identities are not known to InternetCash™, they cannot be disclosed - neither intentionally, nor by error, nor as a result of a legal warrant.
    • End user controls privacy. With no other system can the end-user take full control of his/her own privacy. At best, there is always an intermediate entity or software program that needs to be trusted to not reveal one's identity.

      In contrast, with InternetCash™ the individual never provides his/her personal data to begin with - and hence there is no need to trust InternetCash™ or any other party to not reveal any personal information.
    • Simplicity. There are no complex cryptographic protocols that provide for blinding of one's identity. Therefore there are fewer opportunities for software errors that may lead to exposure of one's identity. In addition, there are no software pieces to download: this not only means advanced user convenience, but also it reduces the possibility of a Trojan horse being planted (ie., the possibility that the downloaded software is in fact a fraudulent copy that performs illicit functions).
  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Some options:

    • Cash
    • Money orders
    • e-gold
    • evocash
    • intgold
    • pecunix
    • western union.
  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Actually it's not illegal in Britain to open a bank account under a pseudonym. As long as it isn't used for nefarious means it's quite legal. With Internet banking, it's easy enough to administer.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Could an American citizen open a British chequing account? Would the Bank expect a UK address?

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