Suicide after convention

by chasson 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • drahcir yarrum
    drahcir yarrum

    When I was a JW, the only time I became suicidal was right before the meetings and assemblies.

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  • chasson
    chasson

    Fred,

    if randy said that some elders has died, you would said that all the elders you know have never died.

    Bye

    Charles

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  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Chasson,

    I'm sorry to hear about your problem. But there is no need to blame the elders for more discouragement. I'm sure they were trying their best not to cause further problems.

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  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Chasson,

    I said that there is not an elder that I know didn't committ SUICIDE.

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  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    Fred,

    What about my question to you? Many people experience bouts of depression, which in some cases, can even lead to suicide. Would a person experiencing these symptoms be well-served going to the elders for council, and if so, would the elders be likely to recommend that they seek qualified help if they need it?

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  • chasson
    chasson
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  • chasson
    chasson

    yes fred,

    they were trying their best in the limit of the stupid rules of your organisation. Unfortunately, some of them didn't need the stupid rules of your organisation to be foolish.

    Bye

    Charles

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  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Chasson- What rules?

    ChuckD- Everyone has a right to get qualified help for their mental problems. Even it means going to their doctors.

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  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    Fred, I agree, but that was not my question. What I asked was this;

    Would someone who is suffering from depression be well served by seeking council from the elders, and if he or she did, would those elders be likely to recommend that the person seek needed professional help?

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  • Maximus
    Maximus

    Chasson,

    Thanks for the information. We've extensively discussed this Watchtower dirty little secret on another thread here. Unfortunately I'm in a position to know a great deal about the number of suicides among JWs. There are many, many traveling overseers who feel forced to live a double life. Sometimes they reach what they consider a point where there is just no way out. I know that from many, many personal experiences that have been shared with me.

    I mourn such tragic loss.

    The new Awake! has a series of articles on depression among teens. In it, almost buried there is an almost begrudgingly stated point that 'the Bible is not a textbook of medicine and sometimes you have to go to a physician for help.'

    Suicide is a very real problem with devastating consequences to the families left behind. They need comfort not criticism.

    Max
    PS: Wasn't GB member Ted Jaracz present at this convention? His assistant said he was in France ....

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