So, Why are YOU mad at the WTS? (page 2)

Darth Yhwh

Because they took my childhood and teen years away from me
Because they made me believe that my father, my other siblings and my whole family would die at the hands of a spiteful god if they didn't believe what I believed
Because they prey upon those who lack education and with low self esteem
Because they are psychologically abusive and coersive
Because they destroy our dignity and self worth
Because they harbor pedophiles and let people die from lack of blood
Because they encourage physical abuse of children
Because they drain all the life out of us and make us into cold heartless robots

Yeah, what soledad said! That's my story too.

Because they are subtle manipulators and opportunists, who appear as sincerely spiritual but in fact are using religion as a means to make money by exploiting their members.

They destroy families and oppress their followers with a severe stress inducing god that can never be satisfied whatever the dubs do for him. Finally they insult the intelligence of the R&F by often talking to them as if they were 10 year old children.

Finally-Free

Because they are abusive, and they work to keep their members too stupid to recognize how abusive they are. They are a hemmeroid in the rectum of mankind - a pain in the ass, but in the global scheme of things, they are less than insignificant.

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mrsjones5

Cuz theyre evil?

Seeker4

No hatred here either, Ip. And I don't see the WTS as evil or money-grubbing. What I feel is something quite different. It's like the contempt and pity I might feel listening to a very medicore musician as he tells everyone how great he is at the same time that he bad mouths a musical genius - and all the time believing in his own greatness.

I think the WTS and individual Witnesses are to be pitied, not hated. The whole thing is so odd - feeling yourself superior and above all those around you while in reality it's all self-delusion. The mad street musician playing an out of tune guitar badly, and imagining he's Jimi Hendrix.

S4

xjwms

White washed grave

Is this understandable?

tetrapod.sapien

oh, i'm not mad. no, not mad. i am just going to get even. yes, get even.

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juni

BECAUSE THEY EQUATE OBEDIENCE TO THE ORGANIZATION TO OBEDIENCE TO GOD.

THAT'S DANGEROUS WHEN YOU MESS WITH PEOPLES' NEED FOR SPIRITUALITY. JUNI`````````````

inquirer

Seeker4,

What gets at me, is that people should mention the fact they keep records on people, it rarely gets mentioned on this site!!!!! WHERE'S THE PRIVACY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are millions of files kept in Brooklyn, NY, that mention every specific detail of that person's life. Whether if they commit adultery, have an alcohol problem, too material in this life or quite simply might have a "bad attitude."

I can't understand why people on this Jehovah's Witness site don't think that's important as much as I do. This, pedophilia, and the culture of fear (mind control brainwashing comes to mind here) if you "fall away" are the worse things. If you decided that you got tired of going door-to-door, nagged at by Elders to "do more," going to 3 meetings per week and shunning people -- you should be able to leave quietly like they think they have that policy!

To summarise these are the worse things they do:

Protect pedophiles -- suprising how Raymond Franz doesn't talk about this in his book!

Demand too much of you -- 3 meetings per week/witnessing at least 2 hours per week. Their doctrines would not be so bad with people, if they gave people a break and let them decide how they want to talk about or advertise the good news!

Record keeping -- mind your business!! At least Raymond exposes them in his book! (Mentioned in first paragraph above.)

Shunning and not letting people "walk away quietly." (Even though they deny this, so another thing wrong with them is lying which brings me to the next point...) ...Family members shunning those who are not J dubs

Lying - they lie in many different ways, but one good example of their lies in the "Last Days When" book by Carl Johnson points out they lie about the number killed in earthquakes, famines, tsunamis in eras before 1914 and make out it's worse now. I would put under this category -- not willing to face up to false doctrines like 1914 being the end of the world. But I don't see why they should have to give up their doctrines because mainstream Christianity are quite stubborn with their doctrines and refuse to see what's wrong with theirs like the trinity for example. But the below paragraph for this point explains more of what I am saying.

To me, it's not doctrines at all because you should be able to reject it and move on with your life without having any labels attached or being shunned!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can believe what they like, but the points listed above presents a dilemma in our lives if we choose not to abide by them. :( It's a catch 22 situation. Do we leave the pirate ship and take a little skiff to sail to the shore and be threatened to have cannon balls knock us out of the waters? Or do we take orders from the captain and become slaves to this evil pirating activity waiting for the next time to do battle again? It makes me feel hurt the people who are still in their on this site who are afraid to leave because they don't want to be cut off from their families!!!!!!!!!! :(

Spectre

Being mostly raised in it, I am mad at them because they made me be a person that I wasn't meant to be. I should take some personal responsibility here but having it forced on me since I was 4, it was the only thing I ever knew. Growing up thinking of all the fears that I had, not being good enough to get into "the new system", fear of demons, constantly being told that everybody hates be because I was a a witness, etc. These are things that only that a child shouldn't have to live with. Also, I am now 39 years old with not a single lifelong friend, friends were always "bad association", "even other witnesses out there might be bad association".

So, Why are YOU mad at the WTS?