family fights on the holidays...
by under74 34 Replies latest jw friends
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magoo
Blondie- i always loved that song.....somehow it reminded me of the Witlesses.
in the past 28 years since leaving jwville, i have not experienced any family brawls @ christmas or thanksgiving with 2nd wifes( non jw,married 25 years) family.
although, after being out of the "troof" only a few years, went to my jw mom & dad's non "thanksgiving" day turkey dinner, only to be accussed by over zealous younger jw brother of returning to satans world, loosing his temper to the point of physical violence & having to take him to the ground & subdue him. needless to say, very upsetting to all there. truly, jahs spirit was guiding him to put me on the "path of rightousness." since, he has been df'd 3 times.....email him often, don't know if he is still doing the jw thing or not.....hope for his sanity, he is not.
magoo
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under74
luna- thanks for that.
jgnat- you're right about the amplification. As far as my brother having time with my mom before or after....I'm pretty sure this wouldn't help. She's not really the cause as far as I know. But she doesn't help. This is someone who was a JW but refuses to admit she joined. She also refuses to admit her kids have any faults...unless she mad at them. If everyone says my brother got out of line last night, she says others were involved and made him get out of line. If you say she nearly called 911 last night---she says it wasn't because of one person in particular.
magoo- what's going on?
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under74
ah. magoo...thanks for posting that....and yikes...I hope this guy has come or will come to his senses.
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jgnat
I understand, under74. My thoughts about the separate visit with mother, is that SHE is the one who insists he gets his fair share of mom-time. I am trying to come up with a compromise that will make HER feel better, and keep HIM from disrupting your events.
Yes, moms go heavy in to denial sometimes. My mom does it with my ne'er do well brother. I do it too. I just loves them all so much.
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under74
Thanks jgnat. I can understand about the mom thing even though I'm not a mom.
Me and my other siblings and my mom all talked about it and we're going to try and find some help and hopefully get my brother to take it. If anyone knows how to approach this or has some suggestions your advice would be appreciated.
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under74
ps- nobody has any stories to top me or come a little close? carla topped it....but I'd like to hear more.
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Why Georgia
I remember one family holiday when my uncle told my 400 pound aunt to stop eating and snorted at her. She picked up a whole bowl of potato salad and threw it at his head breaking my grandmothers hutch behind him. Then my uncle threw the plate of olives and sweet pickles at her and went for the another bowl of some other food.
It was hard to see everything from the kids table...this whole scene caused my sweet grandmother to yell "What the f*ck are you doing - get out of my house!" to my aunt and uncle. My grandmother is not the type to curse unless you push her over the edge!
My other 2 uncles tossed both of them out and we cleaned up and started eating. My grandmother banned those 2 from family holiays because they wouldn't apologize to eachother and her...and they also wouldn't pay to replace her broken antique hutch.
Fast Forward 10+ years .......A similar scene played out as my grandfather was dying at home. This was the first and last time we had all been together since that Christmas. My grandparents 9 children and some of my cousins and their kids. That same uncle thought it would be funny to sneak up behind my Aunt as she was spending a couple minutes alone with my grandfather and stick a spoonful of potato salad down the back of her dress....my aunt started screaming, crying and punching. My uncle was laughing his head off holding a budweiser licking the potato salad spoon....Enter my step-dad and 2 uncles to toss both of them out of the house again. Neither one of them got to be with my grandfather the next day when all the rest of us were there when he took his last breath.
Sad and disgusting behavior.
WG
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under74
why georgia- wow. that's bad and very disfunctional. Have your aunt and uncle in question learned to get along yet?
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Why Georgia
Under 74,
Nope, my aunt and uncle haven't learned to get along and probably never will.
My aunt goes around through life feeling as though she has been victimized by everyone - anything even a simple oops could be an act of agression towards her.....when in fact she is the person who starts most things...she's very attention hungry and does anything to get any kind of attention she can....she's the middle child....
And my uncle is the baby of 9 and can't do anything wrong....
Alot of them are getting together for a family Christmas this year.....I am very glad to be here in Massachussetts away from all the bliss and drama.
It's funny to me that when all my aunts and uncles get together a lot of them revert back to childhood behaviors.....making me thankful once again to be an only child!
WG