He did it on April 1, 1919. The only ones who didn't get the joke where the witnesses.
When did God choose the WT to be the truth?
by MegaDude 25 Replies latest jw friends
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truthseeker
Why would such a marvellous, universal event culminate in World War I?
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gumby
Some alcoholic named Joe Rutherford made sure his bunch was picked after the freemason dude died. 1919 was a fitting year for him.Booze will do that stuff to ya.
Gumby
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LittleToe
IQuit: LOL
Gumby: Booze shoulda been banned, in favour of less industrialised means of organic stimulation
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jaffacake
Spring 1919.
Book – God’s Kingdom Has Approached (F Franz) chap. 17 pp. 349-357 The “Slave” Who Lived to See the “Sign” ***
TIME OF INSPECTION BY THE SLAVE’S MASTER
38 Without a question of doubt, it was a real time for inspection of the Master’s “slave” class. All the facts of the case argue that the Master came for the work of inspection at the time. …Had his appointed slave done as he was assigned to do, namely, give to the “domestics” their “food at the proper time”? The master needed to make an inspection.
40 The serving of food, the right sort of food, at the proper time was the issue. It had to be according to this that a decision must be rendered by the returned master….Down to 1919 C.E. they had endeavored to give “food at the proper time”…. Not only was the regularity in serving the spiritual food a problem, but the quality of the food itself was to be considered….
APPOINTED OVER ALL THE MASTER’S BELONGINGS
….. When he returned to his “household staff” in 1919 to make an inspection of all his “domestics,” he did so in a royal capacity ….
51 On inspecting the remnant of his anointed disciples in the year 1919 C.E., the reigning King Jesus Christ did find the appointed “slave” faithful and discreet in the feeding of his “domestics.” Accordingly, he appointed this “slave” class over all his belongings.
Please use the link to check just a small sample of the quality of spiritual food that allegedly led to the appointment by Christ of the FDS in 1919:
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jaffacake
I picked out some Bible & Watchtower sources to use in discussions with JWs about this. Much is based on the excellent Captives of a Concept by Don Sutherland, available online.
Sorry for length of article, but some of this may be of some use.
BIBLE
(2 Thessalonians 2:10-11) 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,
(2 Corinthians 13:5)
“Keep testing whether you are in the faith, keep proving what you yourselves are.”
(Matthew 24:45-47) 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.
(Luke 12:36-37) . . ., so that at his arriving and knocking they may at once open to him. 37 Happy are those slaves whom the master on arriving finds watching. . .
WATCHTOWER
The Appointment in 1919
WT 1990 3/15 p. 14 ‘The Faithful Slave’ and Its Governing Body
21 In 1918, when Jesus Christ inspected those claiming to be his slaves, he found an international group of Christians publishing Bible truths for use both inside the congregation and outside in the preaching work. In 1919 it truly turned out to be as Christ had foretold: “Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.” (Matthew 24:46, 47) These true Christians entered into the joy of their Master. Having shown themselves “faithful over a few things,” they were appointed by the Master to be “over many things.” (Matthew 25:21) The faithful slave and its Governing Body were in place, ready for a widened assignment.
WT 1994 1/15 pp. 16-17 Shepherds and Sheep in a Theocracy
Jesus said that during his royal presence, he would identify a faithful body of followers, a “faithful and discreet slave,” and would appoint it over all his belongings. (Matthew 24:45-47; Isaiah 43:10) In 1919 that slave was identified as the remnant of anointed Christians. Since then, as represented by the Governing Body
Book - Knowledge that leads to everlasting life chap. 17 p. 161 Find Security Among God’s People ***
4 Jesus said that at the time of his presence in Kingdom power, “the faithful and discreet slave” would be found providing “food at the proper time” for His followers. (Matthew 24:45-47) When Jesus was installed as heavenly King in 1914, who did this “slave” prove to be? …. But proper and timely spiritual food was being dispensed by the group of true Christians who were anointed by God’s holy spirit …
THE INSPECTION BY CHRIST IN 1919
WT 2001 6/1 pp. 13-14 “If God Is for Us, Who Will Be Against Us?”
Identifying Marks of Those Having God’s Backing
7 They base their teachings on the Bible. Jesus said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me. If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching whether it is from God or I speak of my own originality.” And also: “He that is from God listens to the sayings of God.” (John 7:16, 17; 8:47) Logically, to enjoy God’s backing, one must teach only what God reveals in his Word and reject teachings based on human wisdom or tradition.—Isaiah 29:13; Matthew 15:3-9; Colossians 2:8.
Book – God’s Kingdom Has Approached (F Franz) chap. 17 pp. 349-357 The “Slave” Who Lived to See the “Sign” ***
TIME OF INSPECTION BY THE SLAVE’S MASTER
38 Without a question of doubt, it was a real time for inspection of the Master’s “slave” class. All the facts of the case argue that the Master came for the work of inspection at the time. …Had his appointed slave done as he was assigned to do, namely, give to the “domestics” their “food at the proper time”? The master needed to make an inspection.
40 The serving of food, the right sort of food, at the proper time was the issue. It had to be according to this that a decision must be rendered by the returned master….Down to 1919 C.E. they had endeavored to give “food at the proper time”…. Not only was the regularity in serving the spiritual food a problem, but the quality of the food itself was to be considered….
….three and a half years after the close of the Gentile Times and Christ’s enthronement in the heavens in 1914 C.E., there came the annual celebration of the Lord’s Supper on Tuesday, March 26, 1918…
....And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: ‘All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.’”—Matthew 28:16-20.
46 The Lord Jesus explained why the state of the “faithful and discreet slave” was a happy one, for Jesus said: “Happy is that slave if his master on arriving [Greek: elthòn] finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.”—Matthew 24:46, 47; Luke 12:42-44.
APPOINTED OVER ALL THE MASTER’S BELONGINGS
….. When he returned to his “household staff” in 1919 to make an inspection of all his “domestics,” he did so in a royal capacity ….
51 On inspecting the remnant of his anointed disciples in the year 1919 C.E., the reigning King Jesus Christ did find the appointed “slave” faithful and discreet in the feeding of his “domestics.” Accordingly, he appointed this “slave” class over all his belongings. Their enlarged responsible position now was that of serving in fulfillment of the now due Kingdom prophecies. All through the centuries the “faithful and discreet slave” class has been made up of those who are “ambassadors substituting for Christ,
And with what a spiritual table of Scriptural food they have been fed! The disposing of any remaining stocks of the Studies in the Scriptures by C. T. Russell and of The Finished Mystery in the year 1927 produced no shortage of spiritual food for these “domestics.” New and up-to-date bound books and booklets and tracts have continued to be published since the book The Harp of God in 1921. Yes, in October of 1919 a companion to The Watch Tower was published in the form of the magazine The Golden Age (now entitled “Awake!”).
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE AND WATCHTOWER JESUS WOULD HAVE APPLIED 4 TESTS AT HIS INSPECTION IN SPRING OF 1919.
BASED ON WHAT THE WATCHTOWER HAD BEEN TEACHING Its Spiritual Food or its Fruit ( Matthew 7:15 and 12:33 & 37) DOWN TO 1919 (1876-1919)
4 TESTS MUST BE APPLIED TO ALL THE TEACHINGS OF THAT PERIOD:
RIGHT QUALITY SPIRITUAL FOOD?
PROPER TIME TO BE TEACHING IT?
ONLY WHAT GOD REVEALED IN HIS WORD?
REJECTED ANYTHING BASED ON HUMAN WISDOM?
Apply the 4 Biblical & Watchtower Tests to the following in 1919:
- Teaching about the Second Coming (or presence) of Christ
- Who was the faithful & discreet slave?
- The invention of the sewing machine was the first sign of Christ’s invisible reign in 1873
- Millions Now Living Will Never Die campaign – accuracy
- Return of Abraham Isaac & Jacob in 1925
- 1799 start of last days (time of the end
- 37 other dates of events that did not happen
- Celebrating Christmas
- Celebrating birthdays
- Worshiping Jesus
- Use of the Cross
- Great Pyramid of Gizeh God’s stone witness
- Use of occultism and Masonic symbolism
- End of all governments & kingdoms by 1914
- The 1200 furlongs of Revelation 14:20
- Romans 13:1
- Six Volumes of Studies in the Scriptures
- The Finished Mystery (seventh volume)
- The Harp of God book
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johnny cip
with out me looking it up. the wt claimed that jesus choose the wt or chucky russell. in 1878. as the fds. this teaching was still in effect till the late 1930-early 40's maybe 1943.
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MegaDude
Wow, guys. You're like the Apostate Hit Squad. LOL.
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MegaDude
What moronic things was the WT teaching during this time of inspection and selection? Pyramidology for one.
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jst2laws
Dude,
Wow, guys. You're like the Apostate Hit Squad. LOL.
More like Apostate CSI. Regardless, I'm impressed too.
Steve