I Need Some Folks To Set Me Right!

by Nate Merit 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Nate Merit
    Nate Merit

    Hello GentlyFeral

    Thank you as well for answering many questions.

    I am frankly surprised that a repressive cult such as the JW''s baptize in bathing suits and T-shirts. Baptismal robes are specially designed and manufactured to be very modest even when wet. When I was baptized as a born-again Christian at Trinity Assembly of God in Flint, Michigan, we all worse baptismal robes. They were ver modest, revealing nothing.

    At the conclusion of my born-again baptism, I came out of the water speaking in tongues, praising God loud enough to be heard by people down the street in their homes.

    Having an excellent set of pipes proved very helpful as I went on to form a Gospel band (Wings of Joy), tour, and preach. Especially once I became a Pentecostal Baptist minister in 1980.

    Namaste,
    Nate

  • GentlyFeral
    GentlyFeral

    Nate, sorry for responding so late; I just saw your reply.

    I am frankly surprised that a repressive cult such as the JW''s baptize in bathing suits and T-shirts. Baptismal robes are specially designed and manufactured to be very modest even when wet. When I was baptized as a born-again Christian at Trinity Assembly of God in Flint, Michigan, we all worse baptismal robes. They were ver modest, revealing nothing.

    Yes, but to take up that custom would require more behind-the-scenes coordination for the assembly workers - making sure enough were available, in the right sizes (for very large people, for instance), etc.

    but the most salient reason not to do it: that would be IMITATING CHRISTENDOM!™

    gently feral

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Nate,

    Please note that the wording of the "two questions" in the 1985 Watchtower as quoted by jwfacts constitutes an important change. Before that date (I was baptised in 1972), especially, there was no mention of "organisation" in the baptismal questions. The "spirit-directed organization" took the place of the "Holy Spirit". I'm sure somebody can post the previous wording.

    Edit: Here they are, from the Watchtower 6/1, 1963:

    17

    The first question is: Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?

    18

    The second question is: On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?
  • happehanna
    happehanna

    At baptisms over in the UK they seemed to stress the actual date of your baptism

    Never ever understood that!

  • Golf
    Golf

    Are you sure your not planning to pull a prank? ha ha.


    Golf

  • Nate Merit
    Nate Merit

    Hi Gently Feral

    My apologies for the lateness of this reply. I lost track of this post! I never have mastered putting quotes in a box, or of keeping proper track of my posts.

    Bye for now.

    Nate

  • Nate Merit
    Nate Merit

    Hail Emperor Narkissos!

    Thanks for the information. Obviously someone at HQ has figured out the implications of their teachings. Even if the R & F havent figured it out yet.

    Nate

  • Nate Merit
    Nate Merit

    Hi HappeHanna

    My apologies for the lateness of this reply! I lost track of this post. I can't recall the date of my baptism either. I know I was fifteen, thats all.

    I sure hope your involvement was very brief, as mine was.

    Nate

  • Nate Merit
    Nate Merit

    Hi Golf!

    OOOOOOO yer SNEAKY!

    Naw, no pranks here. I already tried that with a subtly subversive post about the Septuagint versus the Hebrew text of the OT, but Leolaia and a couple others were on it instantly. She's amazing.

    Thanks for replying!
    Nate

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