Lies, Damn Lies, and "Experiences" (page 2)

joelbear

Almost every thing I every said from the stage about my life or experiences was a lie.

Honesty

The only CO I ever caught in a lie received honorable mention in the Proclaimers Book.

aniron

I'm sure most of us have such experiences of the difference between what a brother/sister said on the platform and what we knew in reality.

I remember a Min.Servant and Pioneer and married, giving a talk on what we should watch on TV and what films are suitable. After the meeting I was talking to him and he was going on about this film he had watched. Something back of my mind niggled me. When got home checked the film. Yeah, it was on late at night and was described as being very violent, with sex and nudity. About a year after I had left this brother was disfellowshipped. It seems that on his window cleaning round he was doing more than just cleaning windows for a couple of the women who were his customers.

We also had an Elder, a walking book of WT rules. Kind of guy who if a brothers hair was touching hs shirt collar would give a lecture on long hair, or if a sisters skirt was half and inch above the knee she was on the verge of prostitution. Always used his family for demonstrations or items on platform. All sitting there correctly dressed. How they did family Watchtower etc, field service, etc etc.

Yet those of us in the know, knew his two daughters had probably had sex with most young brothers in the KH. They were both pregnant when they got married, and yes allowed to marry in KH. The oldest son was using cannabis, got caught in bed with his female cousin, he later ran off and married a lap dancer, came back, but now gone. Other son seemed an angel at the KH, but in school was a foul-mouthed brat. Later heard through grapevine, that he had been caught in bed with another JW brother. The mother through all this was knocking the Prozac back and hitting the bottle.

Yet through all this Brother Elder would get up on the platform and tell us how his family did this or that in "Jehovahs service". He was never pulled up on what his family did and continued to be an Elder until about 6 months ago when he resigned. Why? Because he was caught smoking!!

I know of so many brothers who put on their JW suit and briefcase, or sisters in their nice sensible dresses. Where the epitome of WT correctness. But when they took them off and away from their brothers and sisters....stand back.

stillAwitness

WAIT A SECOND! I heard the exact same story line except it was with a brother? You know what, come to think of it I used to go to both the english and french assemblies (at the time I was learning the language) and would hear pretty much the same "expierences" in both assemblies just different faces. HMMMM

My last assembly had a brother and his wife on stage bragging about how they keep their lives simple She drives a Navigator and he drives a mercedez!

Being able to move up the WT corporate ladder: priceless.

Confession

Aniron, your story about that family was priceless. "Let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall."

That said, I don't like to gang up on these people--those that were held up as examples to us, but who faltered or fell into something wrong. Yeah, when they're really self-righteous, it's hard to stop, I admit. But I can't help but think that in many cases, these people believe they have The Truth, are trying hard to live up to WTS standards, but ultimately can't cut it. Why do they keep getting up on the platform, leading the congregation, acting as if they're good examples? Because they keep hoping against hope that carrying on with this holy Watchtower charade will bring blessings from above--and, perhaps, eventually their secret desires and/or family problems will smooth themselves out.

The truth is, some of these former "good examples" are no doubt right here among us.

West70

Once upon a time, I sat through a Public Talk in which the Speaker was to include real-life experiences of JWs who had made "sacrifices for the truth". This Elder first gave a couple of brief generic examples, and then started boasting about how he himself had given up a pro football career in the NFL, so that he could pursue "the truth".

First, I found his setting himself up as an example for other JWs in his own talk to be moderately offensive.

Second, his wife had previously told me that his alleged NFL career had been ended by a leg injury which he had suffered during his very first training camp. He either had not been drafted or had been drafted so high that there was no insurance coverage.

Then, after this Elder's df'ed stepson made the FBI's "Ten Most Wanted" list, and his own Bio eventually was included in "a book", I learned that this Elder did not have his first association with "the truth" until a decade or so after he had graduated from College, and obviously after he had stopped playing football.

Although off-topic, while I'm typing, I also know of a single-parent (mother) family that was repeatedly used to relate their "experience" at Circuit Assemblies and District Conventions so many times that most of the audience knew their "experience" by heart. What was never told was that the Elder that "brought them into the truth" did so by first starting a family study, including the father. When the father reacted to this Elder's starting to run the family's life via his own wife and kids, the Elder manipulated the wife and kids until they first left him, and eventually divorced him. At some point on the Convention experience time line, the JW female re-married a JW, and when he became inactive, the same Elder worked behind the scenes to also break up this second marriage. Now, this same JW female has re-married again to a JW Elder, and she is still probably appearing on Convention programs relating all the many trials she has been through while "remaining faithful to Jeohavh" (Four marriages -- 3 while connected to the JWs -- can be trialsome.)

AuldSoul

When I was young, our PO was known for powerful talks. One District Convention he gave the part "Abhor What is Wicked, Cling to What is Good."

Two months later he was disfellowshipped. He had been involved in adultery with sister in the congregation for years.

He has since been reinstated and is an MS again.

My family has always embellished (LIED) for the platform. They would call it "putting it in the best light possible." That's what they call the responses from the CCoJW about the UN/DPI Association, too.

AuldSoul

loosie

So are you guys telling me that the experience of the sister in Africa that walked 10 miles 1 of which was thru croc infested waters holding her books and a change of clothes above her head so they wouldn't get wet, just so she could go to the the book study. Probably is greatly exjagerated?!?!?!

Trace

This isn't from the platform but all I have at the moment:

I was playing basketball on a college campus with an MS and the attendant asked us if we were students (only students should have been there). The MS was not a student but he looked directly at the attendant and replied "yes."

I was shocked.

AlmostAtheist

>> The MS was not a student but he looked directly at the attendant and replied "yes."

Theocrapic strategy at work!

Dave

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