Keep doing this in remembrance of me

by totalee 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • totalee
    totalee

    Why is it OK to celebrate a wedding anniversary but not a birthday? I can understand Christmas, Easter, Halloween and Valentines day but birthdays, thanksgiving, mother's day and father's day don't have religious or murderous origins. Also, at the last supper, Jesus told his disciples to "keep doing this in remembrance of me". If Jesus set the example, why is it that all JW's do not partake? I understand that JW's believe that only the 144,000 are to partake of the bread and wine, but did not Jesus die so that all of mankind would be saved? I never understood the point of attending the memorial service just to touch a plate and cup. And while I am thinking about it, are any of the 144,000 members of the Governing Body? And, who are the faithful and discrete slave?

    Please clarify that for me.

    I am sorry for all of the questions; I just have a lot to get off my chest.

  • DavidChristopher
    DavidChristopher

    Do the "elders" wash your feet there now? I haven't been in some time.

  • totalee
    totalee

    Not to my knowledge, no. But then again, I have not been to the KH in a while either.

  • Aude_Sapere
    Aude_Sapere

    Hi Totalee -

    Welcome to JWD.

    I think you raised some very good questions. Unfortunately, I am just too tired to think straight and the only responses that are really jumping out of my brain are just waay too sarcastic for me to post.

    It's also quite late right now and the postings are usually pretty slow this time of night.

    If you re-post to this thread in about 8-10 hours, it will bring it to the top of the 'Active Topics' list and other people will see it when the board is more active.

    Sorry I'm just not up to responding to your actual questions right now myself. They are good, though and others will respond.

    In the meantime, you might consider looking under 'Beliefs and Doctrine' on the homepage.

    Have a nice evening.

    -Aude.

  • DavidChristopher
    DavidChristopher

    Thanks Aude,

    I think I will go to bed too. See you in the morning Jehovah willing....

    Your little brother,

    David

  • These3Words
    These3Words

    Hello totalee,

    I was once blinded by the Org.18 years of my life was dedicated to the Org, not to God, which is whom we should dedicate our lives to.Once I left the Org I could finally "see".Matthew 24:4-8. 23:10. 15:8-9 Romans 1:25 John 8:12 John12:35-40. We all can see the light of Jesus, not just a select few!

    These scriptures I've listed are just a few off the top of my head that may help you with your answer.We all have the ability to talk to God personaly without mediators. I think you will find all your answers from him. Of course if you want book answers and rederic, I was well trained in that. but if you want the honest truth look to your Heavenly Father.

    Agape Love

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Why is it OK to celebrate a wedding anniversary but not a birthday? I can understand Christmas, Easter, Halloween and Valentines day but birthdays, thanksgiving, mother's day and father's day don't have religious or murderous origins.

    What's wrong with celebrating a birthday? Didn't the shepherds rejoice over Jesus' birth? Also, at the last supper, Jesus told his disciples to "keep doing this in remembrance of me". If Jesus set the example, why is it that all JW's do not partake? Because they have been blinded by the leaders (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses)of a cult. I understand that JW's believe that only the 144,000 are to partake of the bread and wine, but did not Jesus die so that all of mankind would be saved? Yes, he did and if you do not partake you are denying Him. I never understood the point of attending the memorial service just to touch a plate and cup. And while I am thinking about it, are any of the 144,000 members of the Governing Body? All 12 of the members of the Governing Body claim to be annointed with the Holy Spirit but they don't know what it means to be filled with Holy Spirit. And, who are the faithful and discrete slave? All peoples who are faithful to Jesus. That just about eliminates all Jehovah's Witnesses because Jesus is not their mediator. The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are the mediators for all other Jehovah's Witnesses including all other members of the 144,000 class.

  • DavidChristopher
    DavidChristopher

    They are bad "mechanics" living in a junkyard of cars they could not, and had no desire to fix. Their idea of "salvation" is the "crusher" coming to remove all evidence of their shortcomings that is hurting their coinsciences. Just my opinion...I could be wrong....Maybe I should go ask them?

    Your little brother,

    David

  • RevFrank
    RevFrank

    1 John 5:1 states that "everyone..."(NWTHS)

    Why is it OK to celebrate a wedding anniversary but not a birthday? I can understand Christmas, Easter, Halloween and Valentines day but birthdays, thanksgiving, mother's day and father's day don't have religious or murderous origins. Also, at the last supper, Jesus told his disciples to "keep doing this in remembrance of me". If Jesus set the example, why is it that all JW's do not partake? I understand that JW's believe that only the 144,000 are to partake of the bread and wine, but did not Jesus die so that all of mankind would be saved? I never understood the point of attending the memorial service just to touch a plate and cup. And while I am thinking about it, are any of the 144,000 members of the Governing Body? And, who are the faithful and discrete slave? Where in RED.....the watchtower does not believe that Christ died for everyone. And in 1 John 5:1 states that everyone who believes is saved.....so does Romans 9. Yet the watchtower says that the bible is wrong....Ask any Elder. Of course that may bring the Commette come running

  • Super_Becka
    Super_Becka

    Heh, you're not the only one that doesn't understand any of this stuff, I can't figure it out, either. Anniversaries are OK, but birthdays (which are just anniversaries of a birth) aren't, and the same goes for any and all Christian holidays. Let's face it, whether they have strict Biblical origins or not, Christmas and Easter are both anniversaries of specific Biblical events - the birth of Christ, the Saviour, and his death and resurrection. Anniversaries, they're all anniversaries.

    And the whole "bread and wine" thing confuses the hell out of me. Not only do they only do it once a year, but only certain people are allowed to do it. I don't know about anyone else here, but in my church (I'm Anglican), anyone who's confirmed can partake in the Holy Communion (bread and wine) and it happens weekly. "Do this in remembrance of me", we do that every week and everyone's allowed to participate.

    I know the JW arguments against holidays and birthdays, but what are the arguments for only allowing certain people to partake in the bread and wine??

    -Becka :)

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