Number of pioneers down 27 % ? No no no !

by TheOldHippie 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  TheOldHippie

  I failed to find the thread right now, but there was a thread as to the 2005 Annual Report, and it was stated that the number of pioneers had dwindled from 858,461 to 623,308 - 27 %. And comments were made on how little the Society cared etc. But, had yoy bothered to look closely at the figures (Perhaps you've been well trained in sloppy statistics and misrepresenting by a certain group from before ......), you would have noticed thatthe column for pioneers this year has been divided in two - one for auxilliary pioneers and one for regular pioneers. Adding the two columns (623,308 for regulars, 219,926 for auxilliary), gives you 843,234 pioneers - which is the figure to compare with last years's column. Result - down 15,227, which is 1.8 %. OK, a "down", but 2 in stead of 17 per cent, which is quite a difference.

  OK?

  TOH
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  Ticker

  I never checked the stats but you may be right. I thought that they only counted regular pioneers though.

  Ticker
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  FlyingHighNow

  Well, their message is so wunnerful, shouldn't the pioneer number be UP by 27%? But it's down by 2%? That's a lot considering how many jw's there are supposed to be. I'm encouraged by the drop.
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  TheOldHippie

  That's another story, but I just wanted to "make it correct", so that the encouragement is not over an incorrect 27 % drop, but over a correct 2 % drop.

  Take care, TOH
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  hideme

  I am sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me

  you would have noticed thatthe column for pioneers this year has been divided in two - one for auxilliary pioneers and one for regular pioneers. Adding the two columns (623,308 for regulars, 219,926 for auxilliary), gives you 843,234 pioneers - which is the figure to compare with last years's column.

  Okay- that may be true - column divided in two. But I think other years they only counted the regular pioneers. So, if we do the same thing now, the numbers ARE down!!

  Maybe they added the aux. pioneers to hide the fact that the pioneer numbers are going down?!

  Only guessing, of course.
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  Atlantis

  Go here and scroll down or just see below:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/103528/3.ashx

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  greendawn

  Even a 2% reduction in the number of the big time slaves of this super rich corporation is something desirable.
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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I tend to agree with Hideme - I do not believe that in prior years that they could have combined the auxilliary pioneers and the regular pioneers into one number.
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  FairMind

  How can find out whether or not auxilliary pioneers were counted in the total pioneers in previous years? Any one in the know?
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  SWALKER

  I don't think they have ever combined the auxilliary pioneers with the regular pioneers...at least they didn't in all the years I was in. If that changed in the last few years it would be nice to know. If that's the case then it would appear there has been a major drop in the number of RP's.

  Where's Blondie?

  Swalker