apostates - all liars - generalizing

by stillajwexelder 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    One thing that really pisses me off and stops me "coming out" as an apostate is that, if somebdoy becomes an apostate they are automatically liars in the eyes of JWs. Every time apostasy is mentioned in magazines it is always in the context that they are automatically liars.

    To my mind, most apostates are evry truthful, but the WTBTS/ Rank and GFile etc , automatically brand you as a liar when you become an apostate and it really angers me.

  • skyman
    skyman

    Just like the Nazi did if you went against them.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    There's a reason they do this Stilla, they CAN'T address specific subjects or specific lies for obvious reasons. All that's left is to poison the well. To a rational person, this is a big clue something's wrong.

    We have replaced the Catholic Church as the Watch Tower group's single biggest enemy. If I was a Catholic, I'd be pissed.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Logic 101 for WT/JWs

    We have THE TRUTHâ„¢

    Everyone else who is not in THE TRUTHâ„¢ is in THE LIE

    Everyone that is in THE LIE is therefore a liar.


    It's simple. We all know you can't make things too difficult for them to understand

    Of course that doesn't mean the same to everybody else on the face of the earth. It's just another part of cult lingo - which of course IS really a BIG LIE

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    That's the way it goes, they call you a liar but they will never explain why that is so because they can not. If the dubs weren't so naive they would have asked where exactly are the apostates lying. They would then also become apostates.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Stilla, notice they don't give any details about these so-called 'lies.' Don't want the rank and file looking it up on the internet.

    Blondie

  • JH
    JH
    Everyone that is in THE LIE is therefore a liar.

    ....and the father of lies is Satan the debil.

    1 and 1 and 1 is 3, yeah...

  • Nina
    Nina
    stops me "coming out" as an apostate

    You don't have to come out "as an apostate". Just come out. Methinks if you were the kind of person who lived his life by what other people thought you wouldn't have been a JW in the first place. Use the same strength, make it work for YOU.

    Nina

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz

    Twisting reason is their specialty. Why are you surprised?

    Jean

  • doinmypart
    doinmypart

    At the district conventions last year there was a talk something about addressing opposers questions/not listening to contrary speech, something like that. Anyway, as the talk begins I'm sitting there thinking, "Dam* the Society is really going to address some of their dirt. Wow, I hope my wife is listening this will confirm to her the truthfulness of all the stuff I've been trying to tell her."

    Of course the talk doesn't mention anything specific, just goes on and on about not listening to apostates, don't read this-n-that online, etc. By the end of the talk I'm pissed, and my wife is pissed, because she knows I'm sitting next to her seething, and as far as she's concerned her husband is still Apostate #1 - Satan has got ahold of me and won't let go. I'm a lost case.

    Yeah, the WTS has done an excellent job equating Apostates to Liars & Evil Ones.

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