Hi serendipity, how do I know the young GB members (and especially the two in their fifties) are toatl fakes? Because that is something that I have intuited, knowing the deceitful ways of the GB they are well capable of this sort of manouvre. And a trick like this is very easy to pull off because the R&F can not know what is in the depths of the souls of the "annointed".
And do any of the GB give the impression that they are flourishing spiritually with humility, long suffering, unselfishness and love towards the R&F? What do all those bethel boys that personally met them have to say about them? "They are cold businessmen that only care about their positions".
What will be the next big 'new light'?
by yaddayadda 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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greendawn
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Forscher
I think the problem is that they don't have anyone of the intellectual stature of a Fred Franz associated with the GB anymore. It's a bit like what happened with the Soviet Government. At first they had Lenin, their carismatic founder who gathered some luminaries around him. Then came Stalin, who only wanted yes men who wouldn't compete with him. Finally, the central committee was reduced to "company men" with no real brilliance since the only way to reach the top was to mindlessly conform. The process weeded out the innovators! We see the same thing going on with the Borg.
The Governing Body is now nothing more than a politburo filled with bureaucrats who jocky for a piece of the power. The discouragement of getting an education combined with allowing only those folks who will not rock the boat to get into the upper echelons of power combine to insure that there are no fresh ideas at the top. So don't look for any meaningful changes in the organization. It is stagnating.
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proplog2
New Light:
King of North really is Russia.
The "head" of the beast that is slaughtered at Revelation 13 is The Soviet Union that was disolved in 1991
The two horned beast at end of Revelation 13 is Russia as the head that had its death blow healed. It appeared at first as a nice democratic lamb but is speaking like the authoritarian dragon.
Babylon the Great - is not false religion but rather the richest entity on earth - The USA.
The beast that was but is not is another description of the beast that appeared to have a death blow and revived. It is not the United Nations/League of Nations/World Court Hague.
The governments that are symbolized by the ten horns that "never" received a kingdom are the newly formed nations that used to be part of the Soviet Union. Belarus will unite with Russia to form a new entity that will give Putin the opportunity to continue ruling after his term expires in 2008. That leaves the remaining 10 nations of the CIS that Russia will convince to ally themselves with Russia in a new confederacy.
Putin is the "stern-faced king of Daniel 8. He is a "master of deception" (former head of FSB (New KGB). Putin became powerful but not by his own power. He was appointed by Yeltsin having never pursued politics. He is the king that brings many to ruin during a "freedom from care".
The anti-christ is not a class of people but an actual person - Putin.
The "witness work" is done. It has primarily been a witness to the 1/3 of the world that will be the center of the great tribulation. (Only a third of the vegetation is burned up, 1/3 of the waters turn to blood.)
Since the USA is Bablon the Great - Jehovah's Witnesses will sell all their possesions - pool their money and move their blood card carying members to South America/Mexico.
This will occur after they see the "disgusting thing" (Nuclear Weapons) destroy New York City. It will be a Russian bomb. The Russians will blame it on the terrorists. Their purpose will be to solidify their position in their former territory of the Soviet Union. They are tired of Rose, Orange, and other color revolutions. Exploding a bomb in New York will distract the USA from their adventures around the world.
There will be a couple of years during which USA will become suspicious that the Bomb was placed by the Russians. During that interval JW's will realize they have to leave. JW's will be able to continue to print the Watchtower because they were guided to move the printing out of Brooklyn Hts. The Russians will act preemptively to destroy the USA because of the retaliatory stance the USA will take. The Russians will never admit to having exploded the bomb in NYC. They will justify their final all out attack on the USA out of fear for their own survival. The whole world will wonder in admiration when the revived beast dominates the world.
The three horns that Putin "humiliates" is Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova. Russia has humiliated them by raising the price of natural gas. Europe won't say much about Russia anymore for fear that the gas they need from Russia will be cut off. Russia makes an example of Georgia, Ukraine & Moldova. Those countries recently formed an alliance called GUM to work together to move their countries towards Europe and the West. They will be disappointed when they see that the US and Europe don't have the will to help them. (Daniel 7:24)
The destruction of Babylon/USA starts the great tribulation. USA JW's will have taken refuge via the world wide brotherhood. Their brothers south of the Border will take them all in. They will prophesy in sack cloth during this period of distress. The whole world will get to know that these people survived the destruction of Babylon the Great. They will have demonstrated to the whole world the power of love and brotherhood. Many will join JW's when they see this unfold. The countries that have hardly been witnessed to will behold the spectacle and believe.
Putin will be angered at the idea people survived his destruction of the USA. He will become afraid that the world could convert to this wacky relgion. He knows the power of religious movements. He will put himself forward as the savior of man. After all didn't he rid the earth of the scourge of American Hegemony. He will force all nations to either exterminate JW's or he will call fire from heaven (nuclear weapons) to destroy cities in the uncooperative countries.
At that point God will intervene. He will destroy Putin and his armies.
"But as for the rest of the beasts their rulerships were taken away and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time and a season" Dan. 7:12
Not all countries will be destroyed. They will continue to keep order as theocratic rule is gradually instituted earthwide. "And the kingdom and the rulership and the grandeur of the kingdoms under all the heavens were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an indefinitely lasting kingdom, and all the rulerships will serve and obey them." For rulerships to serve and obey the holy ones there will have to be such structures that continue to exist.
The resurrection that takes place during the 1000 years following the great tribulation will include those who die during the great tribulation and the battle of armageddon. The only entities to receive the second death are the wild beast and false prophet. Those who died will have to prove loyal to the new government or else they too will receive the sedond death which if final.
"So brothers as always we have a lot to look forward to in the near future" (how many times have you heard that in the concluding comments at assemblies)
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Proplog2
I loved reading what you wrote. It makes more sense than what the JW say.
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greendawn
Forscher that comment was right on, the GB are spiritual mummies without any real vitality and only really active in the power lusting field, they get big kicks out of feeling that they have millions of naive fools at their feet.
Franz was only an apparent scholar who had "visions" so that the people would not perish without them. It won't be long before the GB trash his theology as they did with that of Russell and Rutherford. -
daniel-p
I think they will try to make the Great Tribulation come. Remember how they convinced us all that 1914 was the begining of the fall of Bablyon? Well, I think they will find someway to make the GT come and at the same time (oddly enough) have much of the world's governmental powers still existing and things in the world goin on as they previously were. All sorts of parallels between Noah's day and ours will be made. If they declare the GT, they will then have ultimate power. 7 million JW's will jump when the GB says....
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xjwms
No No No
The King of the north is ....China
Just about everything at Walmart....is from china. They are getting all the money. So they will be in control.
The USA will just have a lot of cheap junk from china, while they get M O N E Y !!!
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startingover
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June 15 2007 WT
So, while our calculation of the end of the gentile time was based on the best secular and biblical dates avalible at the time it would appear that 1914, though a monumentous year in human history, was not the year that hearalded the beginning of Christ's reign. (You can tell this is from bethel because of the long ass sentance)
Does this mean we are not living in the last days? Certainly not! Our next article will discuss our better understanding of the end of the gentile times and show just how deep in "The Last Days" we really are.
I think you hit it with this. Eventually they will have to abandon it and you nailed the way they will spin it.
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Honesty
What person with even an ounce of sanity left in them could take the "blood is now ey-okey", without thinking "but...what about all those that allready died?!?!?!?!?!".
I knew the WT cult of demons had complete control over my best friend of 30 years when, just before I successfully escaped, he said, "They'll all get resurrected so who gives a Sh*.*t." when I showed him the WT flip flops on the blood policy.
Face it, most of the dubs are insane and the WT can do anything it wants to them without fear of reprisal.
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flyphisher
What will be the next big 'new light'?
I think, some nuclear bombs on Iran`s industry and infrastructure;-(