by MacHislopp 501 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Hello Zev,
thanks for you replies and the continue interest
that you show in this topic.
Also thanks for giving extra publicity via the H2O forum!
The wider the publicity, more people knows the better is
it, for this " hidden attitude " - to the R&F, of the
WTS' organisation!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
Hello everyone,
these quotes to be added as further proofs,
of WTS comments concerning the United Nations as an
organisation. The last is from 1958, ....43 years ago!!!
Please take your time to read certain parts....you’ll be greatly
surprised...even more.
The last one is from the Resolution , in the D.C. on 1958,
in New York, words spoken by the WTS president in front of
the 194,418 in attendance!
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*** w85 10/1 13-18 Peace, Security, and the 'Image of the Beast' ***
“And he carried me away in the power of the spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns.”—REVELATION 17:3.
THE apostle John saw this frightening beast in a divinely inspired vision. But John is not the only one to have seen it. In all likelihood, you, too, have seen it, or at least read about
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it in the newspapers. Did you recognize it?
2 Of course, when we today see this beast, it does not have the appearance that John described. What John saw was symbolic of something that would exist on earth “in the Lord’s day.” (Revelation 1:10) Today we see its fulfillment. The repellent shape of the beast that John saw reflects Jehovah’s view of what it represents—it is repugnant to Him! John had already witnessed in his vision Satan the Devil cast down to the earth “having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) He had also seen the political systems of Satan’s world represented as a monstrous beast with seven heads and ten horns ascending out of the “sea” of humanity. (Revelation 13:2; 17:15; Isaiah 57:20; Luke 4:5, 6) This beast had authority over all mankind, and people were forced to submit to the ‘mark of the beast’ in their right hand or upon their forehead, signifying their support for it.—Revelation 13:7, 16, 17.
3 John had watched as men made an image of this beast. (Revelation 13:14, 15) It is this image that he saw in the above vision described in Revelation chapter 17. This seven-headed, ten-horned “image” will play an important part in future events; so it is vital for us to identify it. How can we do that?
The “Image” of the Beast Todayl
7 Do you recognize the beast now? Yes, it is the same as “the disgusting thing that causes desolation” that began as the League of Nations and that now exists as the United Nations. (Matthew 24:15; Daniel 12:11) How does this organization ‘spring from the seven world powers’? In the sense that the whole beastlike organization, like an eighth power, is brought into existence by already existing governments, with the Anglo-American world power being its chief sponsor and supporter.8
Like all images, it is powerless in itself. (Isaiah 44:14-17) Any life that it has comes from its supporters. (Revelation 13:15) At times some of these have taken decisive action through the United Nations, as, for example, during the Korean War.
9 Our identification of this beast is confirmed by some further details given by the angel: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.” (Revelation 17:8) This has already been fulfilled in part. The second world war effectively killed the League of Nations. In 1942, when Jehovah’s Witnesses came to understand this prophecy clearly, it could be said of the League-beast: “It ‘is not.’”
But in 1945 it ‘ascended out of the abyss’ as the United Nations organization. Will it succeed in its mission to bring peace and security? The prophecy says no. Rather, it is “to go off into destruction.”
The Rider of the Beast
Indeed, religious leaders have made that organization “full of blasphemous names.”—Revelation 17:3; compare Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14.
No Force for Peace
12 The United Nations does not enjoy good relations with God’s Kingdom. In fact, its supporters oppose that Kingdom.
13 In truth, the United Nations could never be a force for real peace. Its rider, “Babylon the Great,” is one of the most wicked war makers in history, and she is “drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.” (Revelation 17:6)
Peace lovers are invited to “get out of” Babylon the Great. (Revelation 18:4) Those in Christendom are urged to ‘flee to the mountains.’ (Luke 21:21) Those who submit to God’s Kingdom must avoid having ‘the mark of the beast.’ (Revelation 14:9-12; John 17:15, 16) A great crowd of such righthearted ones will “come out of the great tribulation.” (Revelation 7:9-14) In fact, no one necessarily has to perish along with Satan’s system.—Proverbs 2:21, 22.
But they cannot say in advance whether this will prove to be the fulfillment of Paul’s words quoted above. They are, though, grateful that Jehovah has enabled them to discern the significance of the ‘image of the beast’ and “the disgusting thing that causes desolation.” Thus they see this organization the way Jehovah sees it and are not misled by its efforts to bring peace.
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*** w85 10/1 8-13 A "Disgusting Thing" Fails to Bring Peace ***
“When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.”—LUKE 21:20, 21.
HOWEVER hard men try to bring peace and security through institutions such as the United Nations, they will never succeed. Why? Because mankind today is not at peace with God, and lasting security can be based only on man’s being at peace with his Creator. (Psalm 46:1-9; 127:1; Isaiah 11:9; 57:21)
Examining them will teach us much about the future course of man’s “peace and security” organization, the United Nations.
According to these latter two scriptures, a “disgusting thing” was to be set in place during “the time appointed,” or “the time of the end.” (Daniel 11:29; 12:9) We have been living in “the time of the end” since 1914; hence, Jesus’ warning applies today too.—Matthew 24:15.
Christendom’s Choice
“The Disgusting Thing” Today
12 What, then, is the modern “disgusting thing that causes desolation”? In the first century it was the Roman troops sent to reimpose Pax Romana in Jerusalem. In modern times, however, the nations that fought in World War I became disillusioned about the usefulness of all-out war in imposing peace and experimented with something new:
an international organization to preserve world peace. This began life in 1919 as the League of Nations and still exists as the United Nations. Here is the modern “disgusting thing that causes desolation.”
13 Interestingly, the Hebrew word translated “disgusting thing” in Daniel is shiq·quts'. In the Bible, this word is used principally of idols and idolatry. (1 Kings 11:5, 7)
14 When the nations not only rejected God’s Kingdom but also established their own organization to bring peace, that was rebellion. When religious leaders of Christendom identified that organization with God’s Kingdom and the Gospel, proclaiming it to be “the only available instrument” for bringing peace, that was idolatry. They were putting it in the position of God’s Kingdom, “in a holy place.” Certainly, it was “standing where it ought not.”
(Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14) And religious leaders continue to support the League’s successor, the United Nations, rather than point men to God’s established Kingdom.
The Danger to Christendom
15 Although Christendom’s religions chose the League of Nations and its successor over God’s Kingdom, their relations with the member nations of these organizations have deteriorated.
True to the prophetic pattern, the nations along with the United Nations will attack and destroy “Jerusalem,” that is, Christendom’s religious structure.—Luke 21:20, 23.
21 Should we be surprised that in the first century “the disgusting thing” appeared just before the destruction of Jerusalem, whereas today it appeared right at the beginning of this world’s time of the end? No.
In each case, “the disgusting thing” appeared at the moment Jehovah wanted his people to flee.
In the first century, Christians had to remain for a time in Jerusalem in order to preach there. (Acts 1:8) Only in 66 C.E., when destruction was imminent, did a “disgusting thing” appear, warning them to flee. But to be “in” modern-day Jerusalem means to be part of the religious domain of Christendom. It is impossible to serve Jehovah acceptably in such a corrupt and apostate environment. Hence, early in this world’s time of the end “the disgusting thing” appeared, warning Christians to flee. The flight out of Christendom is ongoing, each person having a warning to flee as soon as he discerns that “the disgusting thing” is in place.
22 We may ask, though, what leads to this most unexpected act, the destruction of Christendom by militarized elements from within the United Nations? When will it happen? And how can this possibly contribute to peace and security on our earth? We will discuss these questions in the next article.
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*** w74 12/1 717-9 United Nations-Religion's Friend or Foe?
One of these has to do with the world peace and security organization that we today know as the United Nations.
Will the United Nations, in working for world security, view world religions as a help or a hindrance?
An outstanding feature of Jesus’ answer was his mention of Daniel’s prophecy about “the disgusting thing that causes desolation” and that would ‘stand in a holy place.’ (Matt. 24:15, 16)
As pictorially represented at Revelation 17:9-11, a scarlet-colored wild beast was shown in vision to the apostle John. On the beast’s back was a harlotrous woman,
“Babylon the Great.”
About this symbolic “wild beast” we read: “The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while. And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth king, but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.”
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This “scarlet-colored wild beast” is an eighth “king,” an eighth world power. Since it “springs from the seven,” it is not the Communistic bloc of nations. Also, unlike the Communist bloc, ‘it was (for a while), then was not; it ascends out. of the abyss (of inactivity) and goes off into destruction.’
The world peace and security organization, known first (when it “was”) as the League of Nations, was formed after World War I. It went into the abyss in 1939, when it was shown to be powerless to stop World War II (thus it ‘was not’).
Then, in 1945, it ‘ascended’ under a new name, the United Nations. How is it a “disgusting thing” in God’s sight?
Most noticeable is the fact that it has a symbolic harlot, an unclean woman, riding it. Also, being formed by the worldly powers and held up, especially by Christendom and its religions, in place of God’s kingdom as the hope for world peace and security, it is a “friend of the world,” making it an “enemy of God.”—Jas. 4:4; John 18:36.
Now half of the member nations of the United Nations do not even profess to be Christian.
But has not the United Nations done some good? Some say, ‘Why knock it? It’s merely an effort to keep peace.’ But was the Roman Empire “good”? It tried to keep the Pax Romana, the Roman peace, throughout the world, but it was, nevertheless, pagan, and turned out to be the desolator of religious Jerusalem with its temple. It later persecuted true Christians.
FALSE RELIGION’S DESOLATION
Likewise, the armies under United Nations control become a desolator of the so-called “holy” arena of Christendom’s domain—its false “Christian” religions.
What actually brings this desolation about? Is it merely the idea of the United Nations? It is God’s judgment on the ‘harlotlike’ organizations of false religions that have long oppressed the people and have done so in religion’s name, misrepresenting God and bringing reproach upon his name.
Will the “wild beast” of scarlet hue then be the friend of true Christians? No more than the Roman Empire was.
As an enemy, the “beast” must “go off into destruction” at the hands of Jesus Christ.
The kings represented by the beast’s ten horns “will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them.” (Rev. 17:14)
The “disgusting thing” will meet annihilation at that time, never to come up again.
The appearance now of the “disgusting thing” upon the world scene is a feature of the “sign” of Christ’s presence and the imminence of its attack upon the Lamb.
Even nearer, therefore, is the desolation of “Babylon the Great.”
What does this mean for those who may be involved with these worldly organizations?
God’s Word urges: “Get out of her [Babylon the Great], my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.”—Rev. 18:4.
Only by a study of the Bible to see that this time of judgment is upon us, and by discerning between true and false religion, can anyone escape. But it is worth any effort that is required.
For life on earth after the destruction of all unjust, God-dishonoring organizations will be a delight.
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*** w67 2/15 120-4 An Abortive Attempt to Establish a New Order ***
WILL a peaceful new order of things ever come about? If so, who do you think is going to establish it? Will it be God himself or will it be men having God as a helper? Also, is there a timetable for it?
Should we not look to world rulers and leading clergymen? Can they not alter and reform the governments so that the principles of the kingdom of God will be expressed through them? Well, we surely should be able to find the answers to these questions in the Bible because it is from the Bible and not from any other source that we get the information that there is to be a permanent new order in which men can live on earth forever. But what does the Bible say about it?
First of all, the Bible says that those trying by governmental and social reform to bring about such a new order incorporating the things that the kingdom of God will accomplish have taken hold of a wild beast.
It is no ordinary wild beast, either, for it is a monstrosity having seven heads and ten horns on its heads. It represents the worldwide human political organization under control of the Devil.
The beast is ferocious and has proved over the past several thousand years to be untamable.
Well, then, maybe they can make something that would reflect the beast, perhaps an image of the beast.
It would be something that the people could look to as authoritative as far as bringing peace and unity among the nations is concerned, something that the nations could work through.
PEACE EFFORT AND RESULTS FOREKNOWN
Amazingly, Jehovah God, the Author of the Bible, foreknew the very line of thinking these world leaders would pursue and foretold that they would do just this very thing. In his Word he describes exactly what they would do, showing that they would make an image to the wild beast and set it up for the people to look to for the good things that the kingdom of God would bring.
Ah, but in doing so they would create something just as formidable as the first wild beast and as hard to make peaceful and righteous! John describes the vision God gave to him on this matter:
The woman riding the beast is a harlot and is named Babylon the Great, which has already been explained in previous issues of this magazine as symbolically representing the world empire of false religion. She has a very prominent role in setting up the peace organization.
This scarlet-colored wild beast is the same as the image of the beast told of in Revelation 13:14, 15, but not fully described there. Being an image, it is pleasing to Babylon the Great, for she is very familiar with images and the use of them. Idolaters often say that the images they use are not worshiped by them but are merely aids in the worship of the gods pictured by the images or idols, which idols receive only a relative worship. This is contrary to God’s law, which condemns idols in any form and forbids relative worship even through men. (1 John 5:21; Rev. 19:10)
In this case the people are turned toward the image to look for the things that God’s kingdom will bring and therefore are led to support it whether it is truly representative of God’s kingdom.
DEATH AND REVIVAL OF “NEW ORDER” BEAST
The scarlet color of the beast represents royalty. When did it come into being and when was this royalty attributed to it? At first in 1920, when the League of Nations was ratified. Up until World War II it “was.”
Jehovah’s witnesses were, like John, observing matters at the time, proclaiming the fact that the League was standing as a counterfeit substitute for God’s kingdom. In the vision to John the angel says the wild beast “was, but is not.” When does it become “not”? This was when the Catholic-Nazi dictator Hitler touched off the explosion of World War II in September of 1939. The League here failed of its chartered purpose and ceased to function with proper effect, going down into the abyss of raging, roaring humanity in the world’s greatest war until then, into a state of inactivity, suspended animation.
Jehovah’s witnesses observed it when it went into the abyss of inactivity, when it “is not.”
Just as John was told that the beast would again be present, coming up out of the abyss, Jehovah’s witnesses were watching for this to take place. In 1942, at the middle of World War II, this was forcefully pointed out by the president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society in the public talk “Peace—Can It Last?” at a national convention meeting in fifty-three cities, tied in by wire to the key city, Cleveland, Ohio. He said:
“ . . . Though forty members still profess to adhere to the League, the League is in effect in a state of suspended animation, and needs to be revived if it is ever to live again. It has gone into the abyss of inaction and ineffectiveness. It ‘is not.’
“Will the League remain in the pit? . . . The association of worldly nations will rise again. . . . The necessities of meeting the totalitarian aggressions and stopping them are forcing the nations to that final confederation of nations for the new order, whatever its form. . . .
“ . . . The repeated cries and demands of politicians and religionists for ‘More religion!’ make certain that religion will ride the peace beast. The personal envoy sent by the president of the nation to the Vatican to work together with the religious chief for peace is another forerunner of the courtesy and deference that will be paid to the ‘woman’ named Babylon when the total war ends. Her intercourse then with the rulers of the world will satisfy her worldly desires, and she will pronounce the peace arrangement a ‘peace of Christianity,’ another one of those ‘names of blasphemy’ tacked on the ‘beast.’”
The Seventh World Power, the dual world power of Great Britain and America, had worked to bring the League of Nations into existence.
Now this same dual world power worked to get this international peace-and-security organization out of the abyss of apparent death.
On June 26, 1945, fifty nations (not including Vatican City and the Axis Powers) signed the Charter of the United Nations in San Francisco, California. It was ratified on October 24, 1945, the number of nations being twenty-nine, including the Big Five; it became part of international law.
Then the United Nations became existent.
CHRISTIAN DECLARATION AGAINST IT
Jehovah’s witnesses were looking for further fulfillment of this prophecy and they recognized that now the scarlet-colored wild beast had ascended out of the abyss.
But Jehovah’s witnesses did not wonder admiringly or worship the scarlet-colored beast, the “image” of the wild beast. In the above-quoted lecture given in 1942 the speaker said:
“ . . . Suddenly those ten horns and the beast will go into perdition, not peacefully, but violently, at the battle of Armageddon. This time the beast and its heads and horns will go, not into the ‘bottomless pit,’ but into the ‘lake of fire and brimstone,’ to be utterly consumed and destroyed.—Rev. 19:20; 20:10.”
So Jehovah’s witnesses today are proclaiming to the people that the United Nations is the same old image as the League, dressed up in a new name and that it will not continue and that it will not bring peace to the people.
But many people feel that, since the United Nations has been established to maintain international peace and security, as its charter states, this new international organization will preserve peace and security for the wild beast out of the sea and keep it existing.
As is known, the United Nations Organization (U.N.O.) was established on June 26, 1945, and to it there were subsequently added intergovernmental agencies with extensive international tasks in the economic, social, cultural, educational and health fields. The United Nations Organization had as its essential purpose the maintenance and consolidation of peace between peoples, fostering between them friendly relations, based on the principles of equality, mutual respect, and varied forms of cooperation in every sector of human society.
An act of the highest importance performed by the United Nations Organization was the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, approved in the General Assembly of December 10, 1948. In the preamble of that declaration, the recognition and respect of those rights and respective liberties is proclaimed as an ideal to be pursued by all peoples and all countries.
Since the popes of the Roman Catholic Church express such admiration for the United Nations, does this mean that this “public authority of the individual political community” will survive the war of the great day of God the Almighty?
No, neither does it mean that the United Nations in any way reflects the Kingdom or promotes the Kingdom, for as a matter of fact it reflects the wild beast that came out of the sea, Satan’s visible, political organization, which has always opposed God and now today opposes his kingdom under his Messiah.
A DECISION TO MAKE
What about us as individuals? Should we give support to the international peace arrangement?
God says that he does not write in his scroll of life the names of those who give their worship to the wild beast’s image or who pin their hopes on it.
This, of course, is, not a literal scroll, but a symbolic one, and in it Jehovah has been writing the names of those worthy of life since the founding of the world, that is, from when he founded the human race, the world of mankind. According to God’s written Word, Abel the martyred son of Adam and Eve appears to be the first one “written upon the scroll of life.” (Heb. 11:4; 12:24; Gen. 4:2-10, 25; Matt. 23:35) The names of those idolaters are not written with that of Abel.
True Christians, therefore, will recognize the United Nations, the “image” of the wild beast, or the scarlet-colored beast, as a counterfeit and an abortive attempt to establish God’s new order in the earth.
As to the means for bringing peace on earth, Jesus Christ said his kingdom was not of this world.
Not by trusting in the military might of nations or a combination of nations that are against God can peace be brought.
As Jehovah says: “Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit.”—Zech. 4:6.
Political and religious leaders are mistaken also as to God’s timetable. His kingdom is already established in heaven in the hands of his Messiah, Christ. Through the prophet Daniel God foretold that the kingdom of God would break in pieces all the existing kingdoms and it would stand forever. (Dan. 2:44)
God’s new order, bringing fully to mankind the blessings of his heavenly kingdom, will take place soon—in this generation—but it will not do so before all images and idols, including the United Nations, are destroyed.
So they lack faith in God, and their attempt to take it upon themselves to set up God’s kingdom and bring in a new order is abortive and ends in miscarriage, to the disappointment of all those who put their hope in it.
Let all who truly love righteousness hear what God says in his Word, the Bible, and learn of his kingdom and the stability and permanence of his new order based, not on an uncertain, uncomfortable coexistence, but on real righteousness.
Let them forsake all image worship and dedicate themselves to Jehovah God through Jesus Christ and have their names written in Jehovah’s scroll of life.
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*** w61 10/15 612-26 When All Nations Unite Under God's Kingdom ***
This public address delivered by the president of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was heard by audiences totaling four hundred eighty-one thousand one hundred and ninety-five throughout North America and Europe during the past summer.
2 But there is also this question: Does this modern world need an invisible spirit God to unite all nations under his kingdom?
Do we need more than the United Nations of today?
Has mankind ever before seen such a thing—ninety-nine nations united in one association? No!
But at the same time has the world ever seen such a show as it is making, such a failure at unification?
Is it living up to its big-sounding name?
Is it by nations outside the United Nations that the “cold war” is being fought today with a ruthlessness that does not care even though it keeps all the rest of the world in fear and anxiety?
No; it is by the leading nations right inside the United Nations.
Have we reason, then, to expect that the United Nations will prove to be a satisfying man-made substitute for “God’s kingdom”?
Let us not forget that the United Nations is the successor of the League of Nations, and that during its existence before World War II the League of Nations was religiously called the “political expression of the kingdom of God on earth.” So has the United Nations become the political expression of God’s kingdom on earth since 1945? Ask Hindu India! Ask Communist Russia! Ask Buddhist Japan, Burma, Thailand! Ask Islamic Turkey, Indonesia, United Arab Republic!
3 Did these and other nations join the United Nations because they wanted to be under God’s kingdom, and is this why they stay in it?
Did the love of God move them to join up?
We do not have to wait for their answer.
Common sense and honesty answer No!
14 Since World War I of 1914-1918 kings, or rulers bearing that title, have been on their way out. Once upon a time there were no human kings nor any human empires nor any colonial powers on earth. There was only a heavenly King over mankind. Who was he? Jehovah God. In the last book of the Bible he is called the “King of eternity.” (Rev. 15:3; Jer. 10:10)
Why, then, do we have the human kings of today,
why the empires,
why the colonial powers?
Why international communism?
Yes, why the United Nations?
It is because of the original rebellion against the “King of eternity.”
Was that rebellion not put down at once? No, it was not. Why were not the rebels executed all at once to keep the rebellion from spreading? Well, if they had been at once executed, we would not be here today, with an opportunity of being united under God’s kingdom. Why not? It was because the rebels included our first human parents. We are the latest descendants from those rebels against Jehovah God.
THE UNITING UNDER WAY
38 Do you accept those evidences of the establishment of God’s kingdom in the heavens in 1914? Many persons of all nations now do so. Under this kingdom, in the establishment of which they believe, they now unite. Yes, Jehovah’s witnesses, who are at present found in 181 lands and island groups around the earth, unite under God’s kingdom. From his Word they know that his kingdom by Christ will take charge of the whole earth. There is no need for the democratic Western bloc of nations to fear that the Communist bloc will take universal control of the earth. There is no need for the socialist Communist bloc to worry in fear that the democratic Western bloc of nations will take over world domination. There is no need for the neutral bloc of nations to try to keep in the middle, siding with neither bloc, for fear that either bloc of “cold war” fighters will gain final victory and then what will they do if they have sided with the losing bloc? None of those national blocs will gain the world domination, no matter which bloc dominates at present in outer space. The universal rule, including domination of the whole earth, has already been conferred, not on the choice of the Democrats, nor on the choice of the Communists, nor on the choice of the neutrals, nor on the choice of any man, but on God’s choice of ruler, mankind’s Savior Jesus Christ. At the end of the “appointed times of the nations” in 1914, Jehovah God took his power and enthroned Jesus Christ in the heavens. So in loyalty to the “King of eternity,” Jehovah’s witnesses unite under God’s kingdom, no matter in what lands they are found. They preach it everywhere.
Now in this day of decision, when the vast majority of mankind are going contrary to God’s will and kingdom, the honesty and sincerity of each one who offers that prayer is being tested. Does one really mean it? There are those who do mean it. Though all the world be against them, they choose to be ruled in God’s way, by his kingdom under Christ. What has been the result of this choice of theirs?
What kind of spectacle do these choosers present to the rest of mankind?
Do they present a spectacle of disunity, of international suspicions, of mutual rivalries and jealousies, of racial prejudices, such as the United Nations organization displays?
A candid investigation answers No!
41 These choosers of God’s kingdom present the actually alive model demonstrating how people of all nations can now unite and will unite under God’s kingdom after it has brought to ruin those who are ruining the earth and after it has bound the one chiefly responsible for the ruinous course of the nations, Satan the Devil. Today, amid a world in turmoil, these united ones out of all the nations are an example of unity on a global scale, and this in spite of their own inherited human imperfections and weaknesses.
Not to the United Nations, but to these exemplary people we must turn and ask, What is the secret of their loving, peaceful unity? How do they attain to it?
46 There is also another potent force for unifying these baptized believers in God’s Word the Bible. It is something that the United Nations and all the rest of this world do not have.
For its part, the United Nations, which is a representative of this world, has the spirit of this world.
We are all acquainted with what the spirit of this world is, because the fruitage of that spirit is seen in abundance on every hand. But, says the apostle Paul to the dedicated, 47
PROTECTION AND SURVIVAL
48 Those who today are united under God’s kingdom have the greatest government of the universe to protect them. In these days of world-wide fear of a third world war with nuclear weapons and missiles, the various governments set up by puny men view themselves as the principal and most powerful protectors of the people.
They do not appreciate that by being bound together in the United Nations they are united against God and his kingdom by Christ.
They do not believe that the “appointed times of the nations” ran out in 1914 and that it is time to make way for the kingdom of God to take full, undisputed, unhindered control of all the earth. They do not discern that by their own opposition against God’s kingdom he is forcing them into a unity in which they will be slaughtered in the “war of the great day of God the Almighty.”
So what shall WE do?
Be united under God’s kingdom for our salvation or be united with them to be slaughtered with them?
God’s kingdom is the only government of protection, the only government that can and will preserve us. In the coming test of strength of governments, God’s kingdom by his Christ will prove stronger and will win.
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22 Still the clergy of Christendom have no message of the day for mankind. They look to the perplexed, dazed, staggering politicians to take the lead that they may follow the politicians and give these moral and religious support in their churches.
Let the politicians suggest a League of Nations, and the clergy are for it.
Let the politicians propose a United Nations organization, and the clergy support it as the one hope that all mankind must support or else all is lost.
26 To the people of the world the clergy stand for the God of Christianity.
Does the clergy’s failure to have a clear-cut message, a “better plan,” mean that God has nothing better than the United Nations?
It would be an insult to Jehovah God to think so.
Why, then, do these paid clergymen who parade in special religious garb to show themselves off as devoted to God and as representing him have no message to guide men to unity, peace and life?
41 Today, by Jehovah’s loving-kindness, we have been brought to this one harmonious assembly. For us witnesses from the four corners of the earth, of so many nationalities and languages, it is a supreme occasion to make a united statement of how we stand toward the world situation, what our enlightened understanding of God’s will is and what our united purpose is for the future in discharging our God-given commission. This is “why this assembly should resolve” to make an expression before we have to part, for it to be published to all the world.
I therefore yield the platform to the president of the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania to present any expression in which we can all unitedly and heartily join.
42 Amid the great applause the Society’s president stepped to the fore and presented the following
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*** w58 11/1 654-60 Resolution ***
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT
WE, Jehovah’s witnesses, assembled here in Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds, New York city, in the Divine Will International Assembly of Jehovah’s Witnesses this first day of August, 1958, do unite in declaring that we are exclusively devoted to the divine Sovereign of the universe and to the interests of his promised new world now at hand;
16 THAT, in their fear of ungodly communism and of more world war, the clergy have turned their backs on Jesus Christ the King and have endorsed the political organizations for perpetuating this old world, which is God’s enemy, namely, the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations;
and they have led and encouraged the people in the idolizing of these human makeshifts for God’s kingdom;
and in their worldly-wise schemes to safeguard the people from further devastating world war by means of these incapable organizations, the clergy have failed to help the people to find refuge and security against the far more destructive universal war, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” (Rev. 16:14, 16); so that, in times of international peace, the clergy hypocritically encourage the nations not to fight one another, not to fight against men, but, by backing up the political schemes of men, they encourage the nations to fight against God, both now and in the coming war of Armageddon;
17 THAT the nations are now on judgment before Jehovah God the Supreme Judge, and the clergy of Christendom stand as the most reprehensible and delinquent class on earth before Him, and at Armageddon he will give his judicial attention first to them, and all the blind peoples who follow these blind religious guides will suffer execution with them at God’s hands;
19 THAT we, 194,418 witnesses of Jehovah God and people of good will, have come together here in international assembly to learn further concerning his holy will and how to carry it out;
23 THAT, in spite of our having to part in a matter of days, we will continue to preserve the unity of the organization,….
….we will persist in praying for one another and will carry out the Scriptural instructions;
….and even when persecution may get more intense and we may be scattered physically or be driven underground or deprived of our Bible-study literature, we will keep on obeying God rather than men and will preach the good news of the Kingdom, the only God-given hope of mankind, by the use of our Bibles alone, if necessary, or by just that divine Word stored up in our hearts; we will, in all these respects, strive to be like our faithful brothers who today find themselves behind the Communist Iron Curtain or under totalitarian government and dictatorship and for whom we have not ceased to pray;
24 THAT down to the end, as far as within us lies, God’s will shall be fulfilled in us as regards the preaching of his established kingdom and the gathering of all other sheep into the fold of his Right Shepherd, Jesus Christ, to enjoy salvation with us, so that we may be accounted worthy of being ushered into God’s everlasting new world after Armageddon, there to worship him unitedly as one family of his creatures without racial distinctions and national boundaries and divisions, under one government, His kingdom by Christ, and to do his will forever and ever.
25 Accordingly, on this inspiring occasion, we call upon all lovers of life in happiness under righteous government, to whose attention this Resolution may come, to take to heart its import and to honor the name of the Creator of heaven and earth and to turn to His kingdom by Christ as the rightful government of the new world and to bring themselves into harmony with his perfect will, because “he that does the will of God remains forever.”—1 John 2:17.
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES IN THE DIVINE WILL INTERNATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN NEW YORK CITY THIS FIRST DAY OF AUGUST OF 1958.
Moved by N. H. Knorr, President Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
Seconded by F. W. Franz, Vice-President
Attested to by M. G. Henschel, Chairman
ADOPTION
26 Having finished reading the repeatedly applauded Resolution, the Society’s president moved for its adoption. During the din of further heavy applause the vice-president seconded the motion. The president then called for all in favor of adopting the Resolution to say Aye! As one man the audience of 194,418 cried out Aye! and burst into applause again with great joy and enthusiasm. This set the pattern for similar action at the subsidiary large-scale assemblies that were to be held in Great Britain, Germany, and other lands around the earth in the course of the succeeding months.”
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. I’m sure it was worth ...the effort!
To Zev and Waiting: you can post it
to the H2O forum, for a wider publicity!
Thanks.
WT 5/1/99
“Let the Reader Use Discernment”
“When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.”—MATTHEW 24:15, 16.
2 In a prophecy with implications for us today, Jesus outlined a composite sign that included wars, food shortages, earthquakes, pestilences, and persecution of Christians preaching about God’s Kingdom. (Matthew 24:4-14; Luke 21:10-19) Jesus also offered a clue that would help his disciples to know that the end was close—a ‘disgusting thing that causes desolation standing in a holy place.’ (Matthew 24:15) Let us reexamine those meaningful words to see how they can affect our lives now and in the future.
8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah’s servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: “The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God.” So in 1919 “the disgusting thing” appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah’s Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God’s sight.
13….This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a “disgusting thing”) and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this “beast” to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation.
16…While “the disgusting thing” made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future…. Admittedly, we will have to wait for the actual fulfillment to know all the details….Some political elements, in league with former Christians who have deviated from the true faith, are promoting hostility against religion in general and true Christians in particular.
24 …After all, obedient Christians will not be punished when destruction comes on false religion and the rest of this wicked system. They will be discerning and heed the warning about ‘the disgusting thing standing in a holy place.’ And they will act decisively on their unshakable faith. May we never forget what Jesus promised: “He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.”
I did find this on the ngo page Please note: Association of NGOs with DPI does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status.
http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm
So let me get this straight….
1) The WT has been prophesying as recently as 1999, that the United Nations is a ‘disgusting thing’ that, in cahoots with JW apostates, will someday turn first on false religion, then eventually God’s true people, to the point where Jesus/God has to step in to save them.
2) The WT now has pledged to
Share in the ideals of the UN Charter;
Have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community
Have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins, and pamphlets; organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting the cooperation of the media.
Translation: The WT has now climbed into bed with an organization that it has, as recently as 1999, claimed will someday turn on its members and try to kill them.
Exageration? I don’t THINK so. But if someone thinks it is, let’s try an experiment.
1) Find a way to get this info to Joe Bloe JW and see what he thinks.
2) Get this info to the UN and see what they think.
As an interesting note: a requirement of recognition as an NGO is:
An NGO that meets the established criteria should send an official letter from its headquarters to the Chief of the NGO Section, Department of Public Information, expressing interest in association with DPI. The letter should state the reasons why the organization seeks such association and should briefly describe its information programmes. This letter should be accompanied by at least six samples of recent information materials produced by the applying organization.
Wonder what those six samples were?
dungbeetle... STILL cleaning up the crap.
Why the hell is this not on the first page!!!!!!
It should be on there forever!!!!!
Kent and Randy should be making major front page special sections for this one and keeping it on the front page of their web sites for years not weeks!!!
bttt
hawk
Hello "Dungbeetle" & "Hawkeye":
Relative to this statement,
As an interesting note: a requirement of recognition as an NGO is: An NGO that meets the established criteria should send an official letter from its headquarters to the Chief of the NGO Section, Department of Public Information, expressing interest in association with DPI. The letter should state the reasons why the organization seeks such association and should briefly describe its information programmes. This letter should be accompanied by at least six samples of recent information materials produced by the applying organization...Wonder what those six samples were?
Trevor Scott posted on H2O the following:
Posted: 09/12/2001 1:26 PM
--------actual post on H2O----
Hey Zev,
Thanks for posting the articles.
Of interest also is that one of the stated responsibilities of an NGO associated with the UN in this capacity is "promoting UN observances and international years" (quote from >>> http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm). Check out articles in Awake! for information about:
The International Year of Older Persons (Awake! July 22, 1999 pg. 3)
The International Youth Year (Awake! Jan 8, 1999, pg. 31)
The Decade for Human Rights Education (Awake! Nov 22, 1998 pg. 7)
The 1998 World Health Day (Awake! May 8, 1999 pg. 31)
TS,
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Hope this helps.
Here is the link to this thread on H2O once again. (I believe it is given above.)
>>> http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&CategoryID=2967&startcat=1&ThreadID=75656
bjc
Okay, I'll tell you what happened when I brought up this very subject with my friend who is a r&f dub. I asked my friend repeatedly about this united nations issue. In short, I got the "the bible says it's okay to lie" and the "anything to further the preaching work" lines. I asked him why it was okay to point fingers at other groups while doing the same thing but he didn't have any answer. Did he really believe the line he was giving me? Doubtful. I figure I'll leave him with it and see if the wheels start turning. I might have planted the seeds but I think I also lost my friend in the process. Damn, sometimes being right just sucks.
Detective,
This getting into bed with "scarlet beast" thing really could have an effect on your average dub. I think even more than the child molestor or blood stuff.
Think about it. If you present this in a questioning format to a JW who has been taught that this organization is the worst of the worst it could send them off in a real fit.
I would expect to see a JW leadership say they are not members of the UN. Thus, in a questioning format the key would be to make dam sure you explain they are a "partner" with the UN and must pledge alligence to them (the scarlet beast).
"Unfriggen real"!
This is just way too unreal. I can't believe these idiots (some call them the Governing Body) were stupid enough to do this without "taming the dubs using their rote training methods". They as deceptors should have known better and all for money no doubt.
hawk
Hawk,
I was surprised that my friend seemed unmoved by what I said about the united nations. I guess I probably threw him for a lopp in lots of ways because I gave him a mini-intervention with lots of information. I talked about things he knew nothing about- organ transplants, shunning policies, Malawi and Mexico, old prophets returning. I really stressed the United Nations issue. I asked him why he thought it was okay but I think he was still reeling from the new insights I offered him. He's definitely using the "it's okay to lie to further preaching work" but perhaps he didn't really get the implications. All I can do is hope that somehow, some way, he'll get the larger picture. I did slip once when I asked him if it wasn't a bit sleazy to smear other religions for the exact same thing his religion is doing but he just kept talking about how it's okay to lie...
Funny thing is, he mentioned tax avoidance. I guess it's okay to lie and cheat for "truth".
Please, please, please...please let him figure this out! My best friend is gone. Please let me keep believing it was worth it.
This U.N. thing is huge. Tell me he's smart enough to figure it out! I figure the U.N. has to be coming up in conversation now. Let him piece it together. I'm so sad.
Hello Dungbeetle,
thanks for the excellent posting of the
1999 wt article. Paragraph 8 is a shot in the eye:
"8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah’s servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374,
The Watchtower definitively said: “The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God.”
So in 1919 “the disgusting thing” appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations.
Jehovah’s Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God’s sight."
But it is not finished yet:
the book " Isaiah's prophecy, Light for all mankind " published in
the year 2000, has this:
"... Christendom has certainly cultivated a close relationship with
the nations of this world. She is an enthusiastic supporter of the
United Nations and has filled her house with idols and unscriptural
practices." - page 52 § 9 -
and also :
"During the coming day of Jehovah's judgement upon Christendom...
what will people do? .... In place of these , they may well seek
refuge and protection in nonspiritual, earthly organisation, perhaps
including the United Nations, the 'scarlet-colored wild beast' of
Revelation chapter 17. It is "the ten horns " of that symbolic wild beast that will destroy Babylon the Great , the world empire of false religion, of which Christendom is a significant part.-Revelation 17:3,8-12,16,17. " - page 54 §14 -
and also in page 289 there are some pictures, including the Pope
with the ex. secretary of the United Nations with the caption:
" Christendom has relied on alliances with human rulers rather than
on God "!!!
Can you believe it!!!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. Hawkaw, I do agree with you 100% .
This post, at the moment ,should be ALWAYS
in the first page!
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
Oh hi Mac.
I am part of the "Keeping this on the front page club"!!!!
Read this thread people - read it!!!
Where the hell is Marvin and Maximus. This one is mind boggling!!!!!
Just think of all those people in jail right now for not being part of someone's political party or military. All the while the leadership is in "bed and having sex" with the "scarlet coloured beast". Helloooooo!!!!! Earth to Witness brains are you absorbing this or is the wall to thick????
hawk
