May a JW mail carrier deliver mail to a church?

by Bonnie_Clyde 33 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    ah yes church deliveries

    10 years ago and again 6 years ago my ex-husband got permission to walk both his daughters down the aisle when they got married in the Catholic church. The reason he was given about why it was OK was that he was "making a delivery". He was told he could do it as long as that was all he did and then went to sit at the back of the church and not participate in the service

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    Could someone scan that page? I can't even imagine they would air such an innane question. Would a person with such an overactive zealot's 'conscience' be able to enter the workforce at all? Could they be a checkout person at Walmart knowing that churchgoers even clergy might need their services? How about running a gas station knowing that church buses and pastor's cars in the neighborhood need gas? A nurse with a loath of "helping false religion" might need to reconsider her profession if the clinic she works at has clergy as regular patients! Could you be a waitor if a clergyperson is a regular patron?

  • Virgochik
    Virgochik

    Every letter carrier working for the US Postal Service is required by law to make, or attempt to make, all deliveries on the route. Deliberately with holding or non delivery of mail is a removable offense, especially when the Postal Inspectors film it. Our elder at work really whines when a full coverage for New Life Church comes out addressed to "Current Resident" but he also knows it will be his job if he doesn't take them out. If there was a porn shop or some objectionable business along his route, he would probably be accomodated by the Post Office moving the mailbox outside on a post so he (or any carrier with religious objections) wasn't forced to go inside and place the mail on the counter. Every new career employee also swears loyalty to the government at their appointment ceremony, so I am puzzled why it's OK to work for the Post Office?

  • SusanHere
    SusanHere

    Speaking of postal workers, if they wear the uniform in the U.S., it has the American flag on it. And there is the swearing-in oath they must take. They also sell stamps with the American flag or other patriotic symbols on them. Also, they are employed by, and paid by, the U.S. Government, working towards a government pension.

    Seems like a major double standard.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    If the WTS can cooperate with Jim Swaggart to save taxes then there is no reason why a R&F JW shouldn't paint churches or deliver letters to them for his living. Any objections are hypocritical it's not just the WTS that wants to make a profit out of working with the churches.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    lets see. the jw city bus driver can drive army personnal to the army base.on his city route. but the jw coca cola man and the jw that drives the bread truck can't deliver to the army base. the dub private contractor. can't paint the building on the army base. but the jw that works for the gov't can pave the roads of the army base. the dub that works for the phone co. can install phones at the army base. but the jw that works as a private contractor that works for the cable co. can't install t.v. on the army base.... it's all so clear to me now . the wt are scared shit of the gov't . and will only take action against jw's that work for themselves. and not the state. john

  • ezra
    ezra

    it is a conscience decision,but if he delivered only to churches then it would not be allowed

  • jimbo
    jimbo

    The 1964 Watchtower say's the same as the new one does. In Nothern Idaho I knew a brother that owed a sanitation business this was at least ten years a go, he was told he could not make pick up at the Chruches and if he continued he would DF'd. So he sold the business. I knew an nother brother that business in lawn maintenace he was asked to mow the three local chruches so he wrote the Society for guidance the letter that came back said if he did he would DF'd. I also knew a brother that was in construction all he did was deliver gravel for a off site church picnic area he was removed of all his priveleges. He did not even know it was against the BORG this man has never ever advanded to being a MS let alone ELder again. We are talking about the same BORG that joined the NGO's of the UN what A$$ they are to make rules like this.

  • acadian
    acadian

    I was a US Postal Carrier for nine yrs, no one said anything to me, and I had over 5 churches on my route. Now what about working at a store as a clerk and selling tobacco? Acadian

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    The Watchtower under discussion did mention delivering mail to a church. Additionally, it referenced, but did not quote, Matt. 5: 45, which says that God makes it rain upon the good and the bad. So, there is no proscription against delivering mail to a church

    The following address the clerk selling tobacco issue.

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    km 2/74 p. 4 Harmonizing Our Employment with ‘Love of Neighbor’ ***

    By comparison there may be a Christian who is simply an employee in an establishment that sells tobacco incidentally and who has no voice or control in what is sold. For example, an employee in a restaurant may be called upon by a customer to sell him a cigar which the management stocks. Or, one may be working in a food market; groceries and meat are the principal products sold, but the owners stock tobacco as an incidental item. The Christian employee may be expected to collect money for items that are sold, including the tobacco. Personal conscience would have to dictate what he or she in this situation could and should do as to handling tobacco products to this extent. He may prefer to ask the employer to relieve him of any handling of these objectionable materials. Unless a serious issue would arise, such employee would not be restricted from serving as a pioneer, an elder or a ministerial servant in the congregation

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