The Law (Old) Testament & The True Christian (New) Covenant - Part I(a)

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  • gumby
    gumby
    F*ck off JAHESHOOPOOBUA MISFITCHAJAH .. take this (((BOOF!))) I wanna talk to Shelby

    LMAoooooooooffffff. Oh that was a doozie!

    Shelby.....how the heck are ya? Sorry you've been ill too. Don't try unc's demon spray either.....he gave me some and all the hairs on me nutsacker fell off!

    I still have not made it down your way....but I will and we'll have lunch and talk bout this methusela michacaesua dude you keep mumblin about

    Hugs to you sis,

    Gumby

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Greetings and the greatest of love and peace to you all!

    Unk, I'll trade you yer daemon spray for some nasal spray (and a cure for the dratted diabetes, if you have it - nasty stuff, this…)

    Biggie!! My dear, dear little brother! How ARE you? I owe you the biggest apology: I was down your way, twice in the last year: vacation in August for 10 days (as I told you I would be), about a week and a half before Katrina hit. (I wanted to call but could not find your number and remembered too late. I know, I know… I should have posted to you on the board. I have no excuse other than being caught up in my own little life - mea culpa, dear one!).

    'Nawlins is a fantastic city! Stayed at the Royal Sonesta. Cruised

    I went again this past January to help out with Katrina. Law students from all over the country have been called upon to volunteer their time to help out with various legal issues faced by Katrina victims. I had to go. No excuse not to. Stayed in that time, for a week, then in 'Nawlins again for a day before I returned home.

    To anyone and everyone who is reading this who do NOT live in the region hit by Katrina… please know that the news you see/hear on television does not tell the HALF of it. No matter how many pictures, videos, etc., none of it compares to the real thing: I have never seen (nor could imagine) devastation like that, except in war. I would willingly swear that a bomb was dropped on , from Pass Christian to , and an indescribable deluge overwhelmed , particularly and that area. Biggie, I drove through St. Bernard parish and the lower 9th ward - ghost towns. And the cars… ruined, abandoned cars… everywhere.

    I hope you are alright. I am ashamed that I don't know, for I really have no excuse. I have thought about you and your mom frequently since Katrina and if there's anything I can do, you know I will. Please check your IM.

    Kenneson - Good to "see" you, too, and the greatest of peace to you!

    James, James, James, James, James . Dear James, the greatest of peace to you!

    The meeting with our true Source results in awakening to being boundless Freedom itself.

    I absolutely agree. I think we disagree, however, as to what… or rather who… that true "Source" is.

    What blinds us to this freedom, what encloses and "enslaves" us, is the mind;

    Again, I absolutely agree. Again, I think we disagree... as to what… or rather who… it is that sets us free.

    which is probably why the words you hear your JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH giving you are -- not surprisingly -- sounding more and more like those of a law student.

    LOLOLOL! Most probably they "sound… more and more like a "law student" to you, dear James, because I am a law student. Second year. So that, unfortunately, what you "hear" when you read what I write is a lot of me. For which I sincerely apologize. Because my Lord is MUCH more… ummmm… concise… logical… intelligent… loving… mild… patient. Me? I am mere flesh and blood, imperfection personified, and so I often fail to keep my own… ummmm… "personality" out of what I write. But what I write is true; I do not lie or attempt to mislead you. If I were to take the credit for it, the glory, I would indeed be lying to you, for it is NOT mine. I don't know this stuff, anymore than the next person. I receive it… free… and share it… free. As I have readily confessed to you, I am merely a servant, nothing more. Of Christ… of all those who belong to him… of mankind. It is my station and I have no problem with that.

    You are a dear, Shelby; and many here feel the warmth and genuine caring of your presence. I know I do.

    Your words are kind, thank you, dear James. But I will share yet another truth with you: I am not warm nor genuinely caring. Truly. I can be just as much an a**hole as the next person. It is God and Christ IN me that is warm and genuinely caring. And it is the the REFLECTION of that image that you and others see. You do not see me: you see God… IN me… through Christ. That is the TRUTH.

    I suggest the next time your Lord comes visiting that you sit in deep silence together; that you both may discover what is infinitely beyond words and thoughts, and so endlessly vast as to never be named or spoken.

    Sigh! Ah, dear, dear James. You assume so much. You assume that what I share here is all that I receive. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have received things that I could not begin to share with you or others because you do not yet possess the "foundation" to be able to discern and bear them. No, I am not saying that I am "better," because I am not. But I will tell you that the worker IS "worthy of his wage," and I have received many "wages." I know what spirit being look like… really look like… and I can tell you that you have not been told the half of it. I have been in the Holy, and before the Most Holy. I have seen the Ark of the Covenant… and its true contents. I have seen things awesome… and things that could be considered "frightening." And I have seen and been told things that they never could be named… or spoken… in this life.

    But I do not wish to be exclusive; I neither wish to see or hear these things alone. One of my deepest wishes is that ALL are able to at some point. For there is no describing it for you. Again, though, I am not better. I am not given these things because I am better or greater or more deserving. I am given them because I am a SERVANT, a LEAST one… and less deserving than almost anyone. I am given them due to Undeserved kindness… mercy. God is MERCIFUL with me… which is why I slave for Him, through Christ. I owe a debt I can never pay, but my joy is that I never HAVE to! I am grateful for that and thus WILLING give myself. My Lord says, "Go, speak!" and I go (well, eventually, I do - LOL!). My Lord says, "Who will go?" and I say, "I will." Yes, I know I will be ridiculed and labeled a "kook," but what a SMALL price to pay for what I receive as a result!

    So, I will not deride you in your belief, nor will I attempt to discredit you, even with subtlely, hidden in words of kindness. My greetings for peace are genuine, for again, it is my Lord who greets you, through me. Thus, may the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH of Armies, and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you… if you so wish it!

    Lis - honey'chile! Answer your phone!

    GumBall - The greatest of love and peace to you!

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ, who covers eyes and slowly back out of thread because Gumb's visual graphic is MITIN* and, really, too much to bear at this time of night - LOLOLOLOLOL!

    (*More Information Than I Needed)

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    Hi AGuest,

    I wonder if God ever tells you why he does things to humans like the Katrina incident.

    No matter how many pictures, videos, etc., none of it compares to the real thing: I have never seen (nor could imagine) devastation like that, except in war.

    Where is the love in this kind of human treatment?

    Ken P.

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce
    I have been in the Holy, and before the Most Holy. I have seen the Ark of the Covenant… and its true contents. I have seen things awesome… and things that could be considered "frightening."

    Wow Shelby - seriously, was that by remote viewing or did you take a magic carpet ride to addis ababa?

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas
    Most probably they "sound… more and more like a "law student" to you, dear James, because I am a law student.

    That's what I meant, Shelby.

    So, I will not deride you in your belief, nor will I attempt to discredit you, even with subtlely, hidden in words of kindness

    The warmth felt towards you is genuine; and as far as my "beliefs", I harbor no mental stories about a God. Why I "discredit" you, follows.

    I think we disagree... as to what… or rather who… it is that sets us free.

    Exactly!

    We may agree on a lot Shelby, but our disagreement is a paramount one.

    When we allow the mind to reduce divinity to a "who", a specific entity, an object with a name, what we have done is drastically limit and place distant our foundational reality and wholeness (which can be difficult to awaken to at the best of times).

    No matter how loving and honorable the words at first appear, language decrying circumscribed and nameable gods breaks (in our mental created world) the actual united wholeness of the universe into a nightmare of broken little shards; which supports and sustains a very real sense of being a wounded individual, separate and apart from all else. Belief in personal little gods greatly assists in dividing us into those special chosen ones and those less deserving. It is the belief in gods separate which disunites us and feeds enmity between tribes and so supports mans inhumanity to man. Embracing a circumscribed and nameable god allows many to see others who do not embrace our chosen deity as godless savages who can be enslaved and killed with little, if any, regard. (Please understand I am not saying you, Shelby, would do this; but rather that similar beliefs can and have been a big step in that direction).

    What's important is not the visions and gods which divide us, but rather what unites us one and all. In what un-nameable and un-ending actuality and reality do we all share right now? What is there at every-ones center that has been missed, in part due to focus and beliefs in gods and a self which are separate? Are we really broken shards that need fixing and healing? Or is there a Reality so endlessly grand and wondrous as to include everyone and everything in it's purity and freedom right now; so close, intimate and boundless as to be our true identity?

    I had some interesting experiences in my meditations as well, Shelby, but the significance was not given to what was being seen or experienced, but rather on what was closer, what was seeing. It was only when focus and attention on objective and limited gods ended, that consciousness began to realize the nameless reality and wholeness which is always here, within everyone, just beneath the grand illusory drama of a shattered self and universe.

    j

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    Aguest

    I too have missed you being here. I hardly understand a word you say, but I can feel the kindness

    weds

  • bebu
    bebu

    Hi Shelby,

    Nice to see you again!

    His love and faith in God, however, were very different from what most us understand: he loved God… and he had faith in God… because he KNEW God. And he knew God was not unrighteous nor that He would have him (Abraham) commit an unrighteous act.

    If you know someone well, you know whether you can trust him/her. Makes all the difference.

    The Most Holy One of needed to see if there was at lease ONE man in the earth who was willing to do for Him what He was willing to do for this man… and for all mankind: give His beloved Son. And there only needed to be one man willing to do so. Thus, we have Abraham.

    An interesting thought. You sound like a Jewish writer of the Talmud.

    bebu

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    May you all have peace!

    Dearest Skunkle-ly One - Ahh, caro mio, you don't understand: I actually came to be "inspired" (that is… in the spirit). Flesh and blood cannot enter into the kingdom of the heavens, dear one.

    Dearest Wednesday - I miss "being" here, dear one! May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH of Armies, and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you!

    Dearest Bebu - Peace to you and nice to "see" you, too! May I ask: do you mean the Torah? Or are you referring to the Talmud's commentary on the Torah? (Forgive me, I'm being facetious…)

    Dearest Ken P - Peace to you! As you can see, I "saved" my response to you for last because the statement you made warrants more than a brief response. You, d ear one, are in error. Serious error. My Heavenly Father could never tell me why He does such things, because such are unrighteous acts and He doesn't commit unrighteous acts. He cannot. Yes, I am aware of the claims of "retribution" that was heralded by certain "reverends," "pastors," and such in the aftermath of Katrina. What evil! And I am familiar with the tales that have been told for millenniums that would lead one to believe that the Most Holy One of Israel is indeed capable of unrighteous acts.

    But I will tell you a sacred secret, dear one, one that most, and in particular those who profess to be "christian," do not know: there is a REASON why my Lord said, "I have come to bear witness… to the TRUTH," and then lived his life as he did. He came to set the record STRAIGHT! What "record"? That of the secretaries, the scribes, whose "false stylus… worked in sheer falsehood." Why do you think it is that my Lord is recorded to have said, "Woe to you, SCRIBES"? Because… they did not tell the TRUTH, particularly about the Most Holy One of Israel. My Lord, however, bore witness to that truth... in word... and in deed! What you and oh, so many, fail to SEE, to grasp, to understand… is that if you want to know God… if you want to hear God… if you want to SEE God… then you must know, hear and seeChrist. There is no other "way"!

    So, looking at that One, I ask you: where, if anywhere in his life, can you see a commission of such an unrighteous act? Indeed, c an you see any unrighteous act committed? Ever? I ask you: t o whom did he return evil for evil? Tell me, who did he revile? Who did he bring retribution upon? Did he not say that all the things HE did, he learned from the Father? Did he not say that just as he saw the FATHER doing… HE did? If he is the "image" of the living God, the EXACT representation of His very being, how he can do one thing and the Father another? You are in error, dear Ken P., you and all those who think like you, because although you and they think you/they KNOW the Most Holy One of Israel and what He does and does not do, you do not. And you do not know him… because you do not know Christ.

    The Most Holy One of Israel, dear one, does not "giveth and taketh away," as many would have Him do. That statement was implied by the man Job who, when being persecuted, erroneously believed he was being tried by God. While he did not sin against God with his mouth or curse God in anyway, he did erroneously attribute to GOD… the unrighteous acts of another. The Adversary. And y ou, too, dear one, are doing the very same thing. Only may be doing it... while cursing God... if not with your mouth... in your heart. Same thing, however, for God does not look at the outside of a man, but what is on the inside. It is the heart that He examines.

    I know, I know… the next question is, well, if God is LOVE, why would He allow the Adversary to do such things? If He is LOVE, why doesn't He step in and do something? There are two (2) answers, and you know one of them: we (our forefathers) demanded that He let us do our own thing. Even to our own detriment. But even if that had not occurred, there is yet another reason that you (and, sadly, most of mankind) just don't get: you have been accused… and challenged. You. Me. All of us. What accusation? That "skin in behalf of skin and ALL a man has (including his potential to live forever!)… he WILL give… on behalf of his soul (flesh)." Yep. Satan has called you, me, all of mankind… weak… ignoble… cowards... ready to give our very souls... turn our backs on anyone, including God, if our flesh was jeopardized… if our happiness was put as risk. AND… he made the challenge, NOT to God… but to YOU… me… and all of mankind: "Remove from around him the hedge and see if he will not curse you to your very face." He said that if God removed His protection, you, me... all of us... would turn our backs on Him, so quick, it would make God's own head spin!

    He accused you, Ken P., and me, and all of humankind, of being so weak, so self-absorbed, so… shallow… that given any calamity we would sell our possessions, our own children… our very souls… in order to keep living. He further stated that we… you, me… and all humankind… would, in the face of calamity, not only turn our backs on God, but that we would go further and actually curse Him to His very face!

    I ask you… how're we doing? How do YOU think it's going? Who do YOU think was right: the "accuser of our brothers"? Or God, who said, starting with Job, "Go ahead, do your thing. Hit them with your best shot, and let's see?" I don’t know about you, Ken P., but have no intention of allowing anyone to answer that challenge on my behalf but ME. I do not want God to step in and protect me but to allow me to stand up on my own and say to Satan, "Hit me with your best shot!!"

    True, my family was not subjected to Katrina. Nor are we suffering the tribulation brought on by the world's current wars. But we have had our share of "tribulation," including loss, death and near death. And s ome "tribulations" on a repeated basis. As it is with all of mankind. Yet, what's our response? To the Adversary we say: "Is this the best you can do? If so, then your accusation is false. For neither death nor life, nor angels nor governments, not things now here nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor any other creation, will be able to separate us from God's love… that is in JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, our Lord."

    Hear, dear Ken P., and get the sense of it. My Lord came to bear witness... to the TRUTH. See him... and you will see God. May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH of Armies, and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you, if you so wish it.

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

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