God's Name... and Christ's

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  • AGuest
    AGuest


    To the Household of God that is Israel, and all those who go with them... may you have peace!

    This may be a repeat subject, but to go back and find a previous would require more time that I have at this moment.

    The true name of the Most Holy One of Israel is not "Jehovah." That is a misrendering of the initials "JHVH" or JHWH," or "yodh, he, veh, he." The yodh... is not a "y", but a "j". However in Hebrew, it is pronounced as the letter "y"(thin, "hallel u jah", which is translated "praise you, Jah"). In Hebrew, the "w" is pronounced as a "v" - think, "Manischweitz"... which is pronounced as "man-e-shev-its". Thus, true pronunication of the name of the name four letters is YahVeh... spelled ""JahVeh." The name means JAH... brings/breathes into existence/causes to become. Jah...Veh. The erroroneous name "JeHoVaH" occurred when the wrong vowels were assumed.

    Thus, His servants were names:

    Eli-Jah, pronounced "ee-lee-yah" meaning "God (El) is Jah

    Joel, pronounced "yah-el" meaning Jah is God (El)

    Abijah, pronounced "ab-i-yah" meaning "my father (ab) is Jah (abba, Father!)

    And so on. Hebrew, dear ones... is a phonetic language.

    For those of you who doubt and need to see the true name is writing, please refer to Psalm 68:4.

    The true name of my Lord is NOT "Jesus." The name "Jesus," is the English rendition of the GREEK name, Ieosus," which means "Jah is Zeus," or... Jah is God ('zeus, dios, meaning "god"). His name is JahEShua... meaning Jah is Salvation... and the English rendering is "Joshua" - Yah-Shua.

    I know, I know... some of you don't believe the Father exists. I profess to you that He does... He lives... and so does His Son, the one risen from the dead. He is alive... and exert power. He is not flesh and blood... he is a spirit.

    I bid you peace!

    A slave of the Christ, the Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAHESHUA the "chosen" (mischa) of JAH (jah)...

    SJ

  • LDH
    LDH

    Hi Shel!

    Does God care if humans use a name for him? What do you think?

  • cosmic
    cosmic

    LDH, delete all after 'care'.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Ecstatic linguistics again?

    The yodh... is not a "y", but a "j". However in Hebrew, it is pronounced as the letter "y"(thin, "hallel u jah", which is translated "praise you, Jah").

    Please explain how the yod "is" a "j" if it is pronounced "y".

    In Hebrew, the "w" is pronounced as a "v"

    In Eastern medieval (ashkenazi) or modern Hebrew, that is; in Biblical Hebrew it was rather like the English "w" (Joüon, § 5c) -- and "o" or "u" if it is used a mater lectionis (standing for a vowel).

    The name means JAH... brings/breathes into existence/causes to become. Jah...Veh.

    No, because even if you assume the verb hwh (regardless of its meaning) as the correct etymology, the "h" belongs to the verbal root. So the "y" doesn't belong to a shorter divine name but is simply the mark of the third person imperfect. Y-hwh = he breathes, blows (or whatever)"

    Eli-Jah, pronounced "ee-lee-yah" meaning "God (El) is Jah

    Actually 'Eliyahu, where the divine name is Yahu (written yhw, "w" being the mater lectionis for the vowel "u").

    Joel, pronounced "yah-el" meaning Jah is God (El)

    Actually Yo'el, where the divine name is Yo (written yw).

    And so on. Hebrew, dear ones... is a phonetic language.

    You don't say... is there such thing as a non-phonetic language?

    The true name of my Lord is NOT "Jesus." The name "Jesus," is the English rendition of the GREEK name, Ieosus," which means "Jah is Zeus," or... Jah is God ('zeus, dios, meaning "god"). His name is JahEShua... meaning Jah is Salvation... and the English rendering is "Joshua" - Yah-Shua.
    Ièsous has nothing to do with Zeus. It is simply the standard Greek transliteration of "Joshua" (Hebrew yehoshua`, yeshua`) in the LXX (the Greek has no "sh" sound and the "sh" naturally becomes "s"; the "s" ending in the nominative is natural to hellenised, declinable names).
  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul
    You don't say... is there such thing as a non-phonetic language?

    Brilliant post, as usual, Narkissos. However, I was surprised by this question. There certainly is, I assumed you would know of it.

    Sign-language is a non-phonetic language, phonics being completely irrelevant to signed communication. Someone born deaf cannot even comprehend sound, much less represent it in character form.

    I am, however, surprised by Shelby's supposed revelation that Hebrew was not sign-language.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    AuldSoul,

    Blame my French mind. The English word "language" has two French equivalents, langue (for phonetic languages, such as French, English, Hebrew... even artificial ones like Esperanto or Volapük); and langage, which borders on "speech" and is susceptible of wider applications, e.g. sign language or even computer language. The two words overlap in practice, but I was thinking of the first one in its strictest acceptation.

    Quite off-topic, sign language can be called a "langue" only in a derived, quasi-metaphorical way: any version of it is dependent on, and constantly referring to, phonetic (and graphic) characteristics of a given langue in the strictest sense: English sign-language is not the same as French sign-language, etc., even though they have a lot in common.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Cosmic, LOL. Agreed.

  • Shakita
    Shakita

    I'm with you Lisa. God doesn't give a rat's patootie what name we use to reference him. Jesus simply called him Father. None of this Jehovah, Yahweh, Jeheshua mabookie calabookie nonsense.

    Mr. Shakita

  • gumby
    gumby

    Anyone got any popcorn left? I ran out waitin for Shelby to respond to Nark.

    Gumby

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    out to dinner and the theater with friends, dear GumBall (and may you have peace!). Just got in, checkin' to see what's shakin' before I turn out the lights. Will respond to all tomorrow (you, too, Lis!).

    Peace to you all!

    A slave of Christ,

    Shelb

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