Baptism in the bible

unique1

My mother daily text from Sunday which she sends to me.

In Jehovah my soul will make its boast; the meek ones will hear and will rejoice. Ps. 34:2
One way to strengthen our sense of Christian identity is to examine and imitate the faith of loyal worshipers. The Israelite girl who became a slave of the Syrian general Naaman did not forget her identity as a worshipper of Jehovah. When the opportunity arose, she boldly gave a fine witness for Jehovah when she identifies Elisha as a prophet of the true God. (2 Kings 5:1-19) Years after that, young King Josiah, despite being in a corrupt environment, enacted long-tern religious reforms, repaired Jehovah’s temple, and led the nation back to Jehovah. He took pride in his faith and worship. (2 Chron. 34 and 35) Daniel and his three Hebrew companions in Babylon never forgot their identity as servants of Jehovah, and even under pressure and temptation, they kept their integrity. Clearly, they were proud to be servants of Jehovah. Dan 1:8-20. w 2/15/05 11-15
My comment:
Look at these fine examples of individuals who made a dedication to Jehovah at a very young age and stuck to it. Their ages were between 8 and 15. So can we deny someone who says they want to be baptized, even though they are young, the right to do so? Were these young people encouraged and taught by their parents to serve Jehovah? Josiah was not but the rest definitely were. We all need to keep our Christian ID and reflect on our dedication so we too can stand firm when under pressure. Just as the young ones did in today’s text.

She is incorrect on this right. Jesus couldn't get baptized until he was 30. So technically even though these young people served Jehovah they were not dedicated and baptized, nor could they be until they were 30. Am I right?

plmkrzy

Jesus couldn't get baptized until he was 30.

Jesus couldn't ?

Interesting thought.

Why did he wait until he was 30?

plum

unique1

I thought you couldn't get baptized until 30 under the Mosiac law. That was why Jesus had to wait.

unique1

Blondie? Anyone with a CD? Help please.

mdb

I thought you couldn't get baptized until 30 under the Mosiac law. That was why Jesus had to wait

Symbolically, Noah and his family were baptised. For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him. ~1 Peter 3:18-22 In the same sense, you could say that Moses was also saved through water (not an eternal salvation, but saved from the hands of the Egyptians), when he was delivered from the Egyptians, being placed in a basket and placed in the river by his mother. Even so, the Israelites were baptized into Moses when they passed through the sea (including children). Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. ~1 Cor 10:1-5 Even so, the baptism (immersion by water) which you are speaking of is not found in the Mosaic law. There is no place in the Scriptures than says a person must be of a certain age before they can be baptized. When John was baptizing in the Jordan, it says that all came to him. Then Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region around the Jordan went out to him and were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins. ~Matt 3:5,6 Jesus also says, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” ~Matt 19:14 Repent therefore, and be baptised. If you believe at the age of 12 and repent of your sins, be baptised. If at the age of 20 or 30 or 65, be baptised. Jesus commanded those who believe on Him to go and be baptised. It is an outward expression of the inner cleansing. There is not specific age mentioned in the bible.

unique1

I thought one of the watchtower publications mentioned something about it being against the law to get baptized before 30 back then because you weren't considered an adult until that age. Can anyone look this up on the CD for me? I lost mine several years ago. God I wish I still had it.

plmkrzy

Even so, the baptism (immersion by water) which you are speaking of is not found in the Mosaic law.

I have discussed this with my mother in the past, wanting her personal thoughts on the subject since she has partaken since before I was born, and got the same answer. The "real" baptisim is not with water but with holy spirit. One does not need to be baptized in water. That practice is only for sightseeres.

I've heard stories of people needing to be baptized twice! LOL! The first time didn't take due to an elbow sticking out of the water. hahaha.

mdb

The "real" baptisim is not with water but with holy spirit. One does not need to be baptized in water.

I couldn't agree more.

Narkissos

Insight Book, article "Jesus Christ":

Relationshipto John’s ministry. Further basis for the dates given at the start of this section is found at Luke 3:1-3, which shows that John the Baptizer began his preaching and baptizing in "the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar." That 15th year ran from the latter half of 28 C.E. to August or September of 29 C.E. (See TIBERIUS.) At some point in John’s ministry, Jesus went to him and was baptized. When Jesus thereafter commenced his own ministry he was "about thirty years old." (Lu 3:21-23) At the age of 30, the age at which David became king, Jesus would no longer be subject to human parents.—2Sa 5:4, 5; compare Lu 2:51.
According to Numbers 4:1-3, 22, 23, 29, 30, those going into sanctuary service under the Law covenant were "from thirty years old upward." It is reasonable that John the Baptizer, who was a Levite and son of a priest, began his ministry at the same age, not at the temple, of course, but in the special assignment Jehovah had outlined for him. (Lu 1:1-17, 67, 76-79) The specific mention (twice) of the age difference between John and Jesus and the correlation between the appearances and messages of Jehovah’s angel in announcing the births of the two sons (Lu 1) give ample basis for believing that their ministries followed a similar timetable, that is, the start of John’s ministry (as the forerunner of Jesus) being followed about six months later by the commencement of Jesus’ ministry.
On this basis, John’s birth occurred 30 years before he began his ministry in Tiberius’ 15th year, hence somewhere between the latter half of 3 B.C.E. and August or September of 2 B.C.E., with Jesus’ birth following about six months later.

greendawn

For the Jews a man did not reach full maturity until the age of 30 so that's why Jesus began his ministry at that age so as to be taken seriously.

Baptism in the bible

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