by Cabin in the woods 10 Replies latest jw friends
Does anyone remember about how long it takes for the number of Memorial attendees as well as the count of partakers to be announced to the public? For the life of me I can not remember. I am certain that those numbers are not held back until the yearbook. Anyone out there remember?
Mary... shoveling many, many inches of wet heavy 'sugar' snow outside the cabin
I know that the international count officially comes out in the yearbook which you can get early if you have a "bethel connection." Otherwise it comes out in a WT around February or March. I don't notice that anything comes out in the KM. Of course, there is always the "special insight" people have from their bethel connections.
Considering that the counts are sent in around the week of the Memorial...they have computers...what takes so long?
Blondie
What keeps them from fudging the number of partakers? Look at the last few years and the numbers not dwindling all that fast should be a scandal in itself. The WTS could just fake the numbers and nobody would be the wiser...would they?
Maybe they are fudging the numbers and the partakers are even higher than the numbers they dare to post.
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Can't have the numbers get higher but if the get too low, or even to zero, then the end has to come...because they said some of the anointed have to be on earth when the GT starts. Oy ve!
Blondie
Does anyone remember about how long it takes for the number of Memorial attendees as well as the count of partakers to be announced to the public?
Depends on how long it takes them to add up the number of empty wine bottles.
Maybe they are fudging the numbers ;and the partakers are even higher than the numbers they dare to post.
I've also wondered about this. The things that make you go hmmmmmmmm..........
Morwen
DARN! No Bethel connections. Just can not wait to see how those numbers look for attendance this year. This is the first time in 30 some odd years that I am not going to go and I have seen a lot of others on this board that are putting their foot down as well to all this nonsence.
Even if they are fudged I want to see what they spit out. Just wished that we had some secret access to them, don't you?
Mary
After the memorial, by the next CO's visit he'll have the numbers and throw them around in one of his "special talks". Or at the next circuit assembly.
Dismembered
At the service meeting after the Memorial, they usually announce the local Memorial Attendance.
The Society has frequently given the Branch Memorial numbers with the Monthly service report a few months later. This has not been consistent and some years no figures were given. The format seemed to vary also.
In 1992, the August KM for the May service report included this:
MEMORIAL
REPORT FOR 19921992 1991 Difference
Total Attendance: 1,939,220 1,910,194 +29,026 (1.5%)
Number of Partakers: 3,602 3,666 –64 (–1.7%)
The 1993 August KM with reference to the Service Report for April gave this:.
A Fine Memorial Report
The Memorial attendance on April 6 was 1,975,255, a fine increase of 36,035 over last year’s attendance and more than twice the number of publishers in the United States. This indicates excellent potential for increase in our generally well-worked territory. The number of partakers at the Memorial was 3,602
In 1994, the format looking like the 1992 format was this:
May
Service ReportAv. Av. Av. Av.
Number of: Hrs. Mags. R.V. Bi.St.
Sp’l Pios. 206 124.8 73.9 51.3 5.3
Pios. 70,750 80.8 34.4 25.3 2.6
Aux.Pios. 31,343 59.0 26.3 15.2 1.4
Pubs. 786,318 10.0 5.7 3.7 0.5
TOTAL 888,617 Baptized: 2,509
MEMORIAL REPORT
1994 1993 Difference
Attendance: 1,994,485 1,975,255 +19,230 (1.0%)
Partakers: 3,535 3,591 –56 (1.6%)
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1994 seems to be the last year that the Memorial Report was given in the KM with the service report from the same month.
After that the appareances are what is contained in the annual reports and yearbooks.
-Eduardo
Maybe they are fudging the numbers and the partakers are even higher than the numbers they dare to post.
Whether or not they are "fudging" the numbers at Bethel, the number of Partakers necessarily is considerably higher than the posted numbers, because the Bodies of Elders are reluctant to validate one's profession of Anointing "so late (post-1935!) in this soon-to-pass-away System of Things" and so not infrequently simply do not count an individual as anointed whom they (as Other Sheep) have determined not to be anointed. The Society's official figures also clearly do not include anyone who "unofficially" partakes privately after the Memorial at the KH, a not uncommon practice among the Christians who still attend at the KH, but do not wish to be the objects of adverse gossip.
