STALKED II (page 2)

bikerchic

OMG! What is this orginazation a militant group of thugs or what!

However, they feel "90%" positive that I am officially part of the Military but they want to be sure " beyond a reasonable doubt." They told my Mom that they were "utterly shocked by my flagrant disrespect and disregard for their theorcratic authority and could only characterize my behavior as being combative, defiant, and behavior that is unbecoming to a witness."
They were also upset with my Mom that she hadn't kept closer tabs on me and how she should have reported me to them because of my dealings with worldy women. According to my mom, the only reason why they aren't going to pubically reprove her is because "they understand that I am prone to fits of rage and that I probably cowed her into silence and no doubt she feared for her saftey..." However, here is the catch 22 to all of this, they expect her to cooperate fully in the investigation of my dealings outside the organization and they will overlook her transgressions.

That is just absurd! If this doesn't get your Mother's cackels up kiddo I don't know what to say...........me I'm a mama bear when the Elders™ told me I couldn't speak to my son after he was DF'ed I told them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine! He's my son regardless of the DFing and especially at a time when his whole social group was shunning him, he was left suicidal after the Elder's™ got through with him and there was NO WAY I was going to shun him or NOT offer him all the help a loving parent could!

When I read things like what you and your Mother have been through and at the loving guise of this F***ing cult it makes me seeth! Shame, shame, shame on the WTS!!!!!!

general good ridiance to them...........I really hope your Mother doesn't take the hard line that would be just sad beyond words to me.

(((((((general)))))))

general

I am thinking about getting a restraining order and pursuing other legal avenues to get these jackasses off my back as some of you have suggested...but as it stands right now I am more amused by their behavior more than anything...I also see an opportunity to expose these people for who they really are....so my Mom can see their true colors...

I kinda laugh at how they think the "theocratic authority" bestowed upon them by the WTS is somehow equivalent with the authority of a dictator in charge of a police state. I also laugh at how they think of themselves as FBI or CIA agents and how they get into their little "covert" operations against those that they perceive as "bringing shame upon Jehovah's organization." In way I would kinda get a kick out of seeing them hiding in the Bushes trying to catch me in an unscriptual act...LMAO... but at the sametime given that these two turkeys aren't afraid to confront me in public places there is a potential they could make my life a miserable hell...and expose the past I don't really like to talk about with non-ex jws who never seem to quite understand (unlike the ex-jws, and fading ex jws who understand fully) the impact that this organization has had on people's lives. I already know the circle of friends I have around me would look upon me differently if they were to know...

However, I have to agree with your comments on how I should tell gf about my jw past...she does have a right to know...afterall I can't keep 1/2 of my family hidden away....but at the sametime I am not worried about how her opinion of me would change...we have been together for awhile now. I plan to broach the subject with her this weekend in case there is another confrontation with the elders ( we will be down in that area again this weekend)

Far as thanking me for serving the country...I am only cadet who is contracted in to become commissioned as 2nd Lieutinent by next summer...even then I probably won't seen any action until I am done with Graduate school which will give me the promotion to Captian. So I will take your expressions of thanks and gratitude to some of my good friends ( some of them who are now in ROTC with me) who enlisted in the army right out of High School and saw action over in Iraq...it will mean lot to them...at this time I cannot personally accept those expressions of thanks until I have fought for my country and undergo the sacrifices that these brave soliders have endured. It is the enlisted men and women that are on the front lines dying and fighting that deserve the utmost respect for it is them that make up the backbone of the entire American Military.

General

SickofLies

Just go out and shoot the f***ers

justsomedude

Thats sucks that your Mom has to go through that mess.

What always gets me about these stories is that the elders are concerned about you "bringing dishonor on the Borg".. If you havent associated with the Witnesses for over 4 years, joined the military and havent even told your girlfriend that you were once part of their cult, how can you possibly be dishonoring them? I doubt anyone even suspects you were associated with them.

Elsewhere

The elders are not following the direction of the Faithful and Discreet slave in their Flock book!

UNIT 5 (a), pages 99, 100
Baptized persons who have not associated for some time.
If you learn of serious wrongdoing on the part of such a
person, the matter should be investigated if it poses a
threat to the congregation's cleanness and welfare or caus-
es a public scandal.
Consider the following:
Does he still profess to be a Witness?
Is he generally recognized as such in the congrega-
tion and/or t e community?
Does the person have a measure of contact or
association with the congregation so that a leaven-
ing, or corrupting, influence exists?
How did the matter become known to the elders?
Is the person willing to meet with a committee,
thus admitting accountability to the Christian con-
gregation?
Depending upon length of inactivity and other factors
suggested above, elders may determine to hold the
matter in abeyance.
In such a case, a record of the person's questionable
conduct should be made for the congregation file so
that everything noted might be clarified when the
person shows interest in becoming active again.
If the sinful conduct is known only to believing family
members and no congregation action is taken because
of the factors outlined above, believing relatives will
likely determine to curtail family association severely,
viewing the relative as bad association. ( I Cor. 15:33)
If the individual still professes to be a Witness and is
willing to meet with the judicial committee, the matter
should be handled in the normal way. However, when
factors such as possible legal action exist, it is best to
consult the Society before proceeding. (w87 9/1 p. 14)

orangefatcat

general, thanks for posting a part 2 to your story or rather nightmare. I would be fuming at the elders for the way they seemed to have attacked your mother. Yes talk about gestapo police its totally unacceptable behaviour. I would tell them in no uncertain terms that they leave your mom and sister alone and they have the balls to make her feel like two cents. I would myself contact those morons and tell them to stay away from my mom, I have my own life and mom isnt' privay to my life style and if you ever do that again you'll call the police.
I would call the police anyway and tell them your being stalked by the JWs elders. A restraining order is a good thing.

God this sort of thing pisses me beyond belief how they think they can weasel there asses into the private lives of people who no longer want to be witnesses. Of course they have to set the record straight...yeh right,,they got nothing better to do then police people. There behaviour in that store was abominable. I would charge them if there is a law availabe you could throw at them.

best wishes , general.

orangefatcat..

Sunnygal41

Amazing how several years go by without any interest in you and now the energy and intensity of it.

My thoughts, exactly, Blondie...........they could have cared less for his spirituality, but, now they can inflate their pompous self importance by harrassing you and your mom. What a bunch of assholes.........

Sunnygal41

alt BETTER YET, FILL THIS OUT AND PUT IT IN A BLUE ENVELOPE AND HAND IT TO EM............LMAO

Virgochik

So, General, the elders are peeking from behind the pickles, chasing you through the chips, crouching among the cantaloupes, tiptoeing past the tomatoes, hollering at you in the grocery store aisles to come over at once and take them seriously, and freaked out, shouting in the parking lot. What about taking their authority seriously do you have trouble with? Hahaha!

I'd ask the cops to have a chat with them, so they leave your Mom alone. They sound very arrogant and in need of a reality check.

And WHO is bringing shame on Jehoopla's name?

Sunnygal41

alt WOOPS, SORRY, THIS IS THE PART YOU NEED..........

STALKED II

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