Animals didn't sin so why do they kill each other?

by Spectrum 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Shining One
    Shining One

    >Sckrewwww him then.
    Really? You might want to reconsider that.....
    Rex

  • Grouper
    Grouper

    I think these questions are extremely relevant to determine Gods character if one believes He directly created all living things without the use of evolution.


    Just think of the thought process God must have had in determining how certain species breed and eat.


    For example why not just simply create wasps that implant their eggs in dead animal matter or plant matter for them to develop, but no, instead God creates wasps that hunt their prey, paralyze it, implants an egg inside of it and lets it grow by eating its host from the inside out while it is still alive or in the case of certain flies they just find any good snail and implant their eggs in it, the larvae takes over all motor functions while it feeds on its host but mercifully this time the host doesn’t die but lives to be infected another day.


    Now lets consider spiders that get their meals not just by simply killing its prey, but instead by paralyzing it, then once it is paralyzed, the venom liquefies the inside of its prey then the good old spider sucks the juicy inside with its fangs like a straw.


    One more, what was God thinking when he made the Vampire catfish. The candiru feeds parasitically by burrowing into body orifices, jamming itself in place using barbs along its sides then drinking the blood of its victim. If it detects urine in the water while looking for a host, it can swim up the urethra and it is almost impossible to remove without surgery. OUCH.


    God also created chemical warfare, as it is the coral reefs and other invertebrates that first went to war with one another by using their toxins to niche out their homes in crowed reefs and hunt for food.


    There are millions of other examples that are gruesome, sadistic, and unimaginable on how animals eat, breed, and live that that if we credit God with having directly created them, it leaves one wondering about Gods character, unless you think He is sadistic or has a weird sense of humor.

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    This is interesting. My husband and I were just watching a program about wildlife, and how if you remove one animal from the "chain of life", it will upset the whole system. Example: Remove the Wolves from the wild, and you suddenly have a over population of other creatures. Like Deer, Rabbits etc. Bring them back and the balance in time, balance resumes. I asked my husband, do you believe that animals have ALWAYS eaten each other? Or do you believe that it was put into their heads AFTER the flood?? Because look at the dinousors that have been found that were obviusly meat eaters. Some had carnivorous teeth. And claws for shredding flesh. The Saber Tooth Tigers, the Ssharks that fed on Whales etc... and according to the Society, these creatures existed long before Man. (I'm not so sure about that either, but thats a whole other topic.) Seems like Jehovah craeted those creatures to eat one another, at least some of them anyway, from the earliest of creation. My husband agreed that he thinks they have always been the way they are. I haven't done any real research on it though. It is just nice to know I now have the freedom to look and examine the possibilities without being told I have to believe a certain way.

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • slacker911
    slacker911

    Shining One

    Why should he reconsider that? If a human being did many of the things that God supposedly does on a daily basis, several million times over, our own laws would imprison him. God sits by every day and watches thousands of children die of preventable illness, watches women by the thousands get raped, watched 20 or so vacationers in Egypt get blown apart by terrorist bombs yesterday, and watched hundreds of millions brutally kill each other in war over the past couple thousand years. He has watched millions die of cancer, heart disease, commit suicide, die in accidents, and die of bacterial and viral infections. He also has watched his own servants burn alive at the stake, be fed to lions, be drawn and quartered, and stoned to death among others. Why does God get a pass on this? Especially when if we watched a fellow human being do this we would imprison them? Now the fact that God can prevent it all makes it twice as bad!

    But with a track record like that, why should we be surprised that God designed his creatures to kill each other? Some other interesting factoids about the brutal nature of the animal kingdom that always made me wonder, when I believed in a creator, are: (1) African wild dogs disembowel their prey while it is still running. What kind of God would allow that? I mean, the prey animals are still trying to run away and dogs are running in the other direction with their guts. What kind of loving creator creates that? (2) If there was a creator, and animals didnt always prey on each other, then why do Cheetah's have dewclaws? This claw extends up the back side of the foreward limb of a cheetah. A cheetah, when it is chasing it's prey extends this limb and hooks the hind leg of the prey that it is chasing, tripping the animal. The cheetah then follows the seemingly universal feline instinct, which is to suffocate its prey. This is the only purpose of this digit. Why was it on the Cheetah at all when its only use is to facilitate the capture of prey for the purpose of killing it? Was it added after the flood when God was on his day of rest? (3) The Komodo Dragon of Komodo Island. It has the most basic venom system available. It has cultures of bacteria that live in its mouth that are completely poisonous to mammalian blood. It survives by ambushing a herbivore as it minds its own business and goes about its day eating plants. The animal survives the bite and usually walks away. Within three or four days though it falls over dead from blood poisoning. The Komodo Dragon will follow it until it falls over, and then it begins to eat it alive. Indicative of a loving God? And what kind of God would specially create the bacteria in the Komodo Dragon's mouth? (4) Just watch the life get sucked out of anything by a constricting snake.

    Would any loving human being specifically create animals that have to do these things just to survive? I can't imagine that any one would. I mean, its not like these animals are doing it for fun, it is how they survive! But what kind of nutjob would design something like that? I guess I dont want to know. But why would we believe in, let alone worship a God who does this, and then expect him to love us? And expect him to actually answer our prayers? And if the fact that I dont understand this is because I am imperfect, or faithless, well, I will take that all day long. I would not follow or admire any human that behaves this way, and I will not serve any God that behaves this way.

  • oldflame
    oldflame
    If only Jehovah could have created some really fast growing vegetation we wouldn't be in this predicament.

    I don't know about this one cause I can produce BUDS in about 8 weeks. LOL

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