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by Tallyman 16 Replies latest jw friends

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  Tallyman

  Blondie,

  Andi said EXACTLY what I was going to say.
  EXACTLY!
  It's like she's psychic or sumpin'!

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  Tallyman

  Being a victim myself, it disturbs me to see what seems to be delight on the part of some that there are JW child molesters...

  Blondie,

  WHERE are you picking that vibe up?
  Here?
  If there is any "delight" going on, it is because ANOTHER Kriminal Activity of a Kriminal Kult is being exposed... and that would give those of us who know the Watchtower to be an EVIL Organization a 'sense of satisfaction'. Yes, it would.

  Hopefully the (unwanted on the part of the WT) exposure of pedophile-protection within the jehovah Witness religion will be
  one more chip away, to knock the props out from under WTOrganization, and they will be found "Guilty-As-Charged", and ALL the Victimizers and those who aid and abet them, will go to jail, be fined, and lose all support for their Criminal Enterprise, heretofore known to the world as "The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society".

  Not 'to give you the boot' or anything, but maybe you should stop reading any thread having to do with child molestation for your own emotional well-being. (you seem almost in a hurry to be offended)

  Sorry you were a victim of molestation.

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  Billygoat

  blondie,

  I think you're reading WAAY to much into my post.

  Thanks Andi for the boot out the door. I would suggest putting a lock on this board and requesting a password so that only "approved" people can post.

  Huh? Where/when/how am I booting you out the door? Did I say you shouldn't be here? No. I said if you want to address other religious molesters, go to those boards to address them. This board is about JW's.

  Being a victim myself, it disturbs me to see what seems to be delight on the part of some that there are JW child molesters.

  I too am a victim of molestation/child rape by a NON JW. But I don't delight in the fact that there are JW molesters. Where are you getting THAT?

  JWs aren't any more likely to be molesters than any other part of the population.

  Did I say that? You said...

  ....protecting children from molesters does not begin and end with JWs...

  ...which I agree with. But this thread is about JW molesters. We are not going to necessarily address Catholics, Muslims, Baptists, etc here as much because it IS a JW board - not Catholic, Muslim, or Baptist. Hello?

  It seems, Andi, you have made a judgment of me with little information. I have a reason and a right to be here just like you. If you don't like what I write...don't read it...that's what seems to be the direction about offensive comments here.

  Again, hello? Where in my post did I judge you? My post is very non-emotional and states facts. Please quote me if I'm being judgemental. I've done nothing of the sort. I agree you have a right as I do. I've found nothing offensive. I don't think I've said anything offensive.

  I'm sorry you were offended...that wasn't my goal.

  I'm not offended. Never was. Never stated in my post that I was. Again you are reading inbetween lines that aren't there. Work with the words I post dear, not words in your imagination.

  Billygoat
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  Esmeralda

  Hey Tallyman,

  Just wanted to say thank you for posting that article here. Like you, I am totally disgusted that the bishop got that non-sentence. I agree with you that he should be locked up with the slime that molested all those poor boys.

  As far as the issue that was raised that we are focusing here on JW predators...why shouldn't we? We were JW's, we know it goes on and most of us still have family in the Borginazation.

  I have a five year old daughter who regularly attends meetings and social functions with my JW ex. I am afraid for her and am always warning my ex not to trust anyone just because they are a "brother".

  My sister was molested as a child at a congregation picnic only feet away from where my parents were eating. she could see them the entire time it was happening! She was too small, too young, too innocent to understand what was happening at the time.

  She didn't tell anyone about the event until she was nearly 30, 25 years after it happened. Still, only immediate family know it happened, let alone who did it (he's dead now) But it happens, and I want WT rules to change because my little one is still in there, against my will. That is just one of the reasons I focus on JW molesters.

  Of course I care about other molestation victims. Sadly, the majority of my friends survivors of it. But the fight for children everywhere has to begin somewhere. So we all do what we can, in whatever arena.

  Tally...I just wanted to offer you a hug and quote words to a song we both know...to remind you that your feelings and frustration on this are shared.

  My life goes on in endless song,
  above earth's lamentations,
  I hear the real, though far-off hymn
  that hails a new creation.

  Thought all the tumult and the strife
  I hear it's music ringing,
  it sounds an echo in my soul,
  how can I keep from singing?

  When tyrants tremble in their fear,
  and hear their death knell ringing,
  when friends rejoice, both far and near
  how can I keep from singing?

  In prison cell and dungeon vile,
  our thoughts to them are winging,
  when friends by shame are undefiled
  how can I keep from singing? ~ Roma Ryan

  All we can do is keep bringing attention to the subject of abuse on all fronts, and hope that our friends who have been imprisoned by years of shame and silence will finally make it out to the light.

  It's time for the abusers to go to jail!!!

  *hugs* to ya, Tally
  essie
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  blondie

  My emotional well-being is fine....I have dealt with my pain a long time ago... as to my being easily offended...that is a subjective opinion. If I was easily offended, I wouldn't still be here based on some of the colorful vocabulary I have seen just on the titles.

  I'm not a beginner in fighting child abuse. There are good people here putting a lot on the line to gather the FACTS to fight child abuse, where they have the facts, in the JW congregations. It wouldn't be reasonable to think that they could do anything about the child molester in the Mormon church.

  When the WTS is wrong, they think only God can correct them (as if he is going to come down here...then we should all watch out). Even if the individual is right, he/she is wrong to point it out to them. Being a woman, I know what it is like to point out to a male that he is wrong...men in my experience, that is, not making any personal applications here.

  I know many have been hurt by the unscriptural words and actions of some of the JWs they have been in contact with. I just worry that the desire to hurt back will cloud the issue of gathering FACTS and presenting them in such a way when it will do the most good for the victims and that improvements will be made regardless of the motivation (monetary).

  Believe me if I were easily offended, the first five minutes would have sent me flying....really, it is only silentlambs posting here that bring me back. There is a man (and his wife) that has risked it all for others.
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  Billygoat

  blondie,

  I'm quoting Essie, just so you don't get confused...

  Of course I care about other molestation victims. Sadly, the majority of my friends survivors of it. But the fight for children everywhere has to begin somewhere. So we all do what we can, in whatever arena.

  This was the point I was trying to make. We address JW molestations first because THAT is our common ground on this board. Molestation is not our common ground.

  Essie - thank you for wording it so much better than I! I appreciate it!

  Andi

  PS: Tallyman - I am psychic and I CAN read your mind you filthy dog you!
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  Tallyman

  Tallyman - I am psychic and I CAN read your mind you filthy dog you!

  Andi!
  where were you and your psychic abilities last week when I needed you for picking out the right Powerball numbers??

  My sister was molested as a child at a congregation picnic only feet away from where my parents were eating. she could see them the entire time it was happening!

  Esmeralda,

  Wow! I wonder if any one like say, an Elder or Ministerial Servant saw it happening, but looked the other way, for the good of jehovah's Organization, to keep it clean from reproach, if such a horrible act as that would become common/public knowledge?

  But the fight for children everywhere has to begin somewhere.

  I know you must worry for your daughter, but with all the 'heads-ups' she's getting from you and your husband, she has a protection a lot of other kids do not have.

  When tyrants tremble in their fear,
  and hear their death knell ringing,
  when friends rejoice, both far and near
  how can I keep from singing?

  How very appropriate the lyrics are in Enya's song related to this issue. I HOPE those Watchtower Tyrants are Trembling and Shaking in their Shoes... thinking about what's about to happen 'when the other shoe drops'...

  All we can do is keep bringing attention to the subject of abuse on all fronts

  Yep.
  And when you think about the full meaning of the word 'molest',
  I think you could rightfully say that the Watchtower is an Organization of Molestation.

  'molest': a burden, to annoy, interfere with or meddle with so as to trouble or harm, or with intent to trouble or harm.

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