Wendy - good luck, you have a tough road ahead of you. Much peace in your travels.
Glad to know I am not the only one
by Wendy_Warden 28 Replies latest social relationships
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Legolas
Welcome to the board!
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Apostate Kate
Wendy, being the wacky apostate JW born again Christian that I am...I wonder if God did not send you to help him out. One thing that I keep in mind, and use it to govern myself and my own actions, is that there were too few people willing to take my self righteous butt on when I was a JW. Do you have a Crisis of Conscience book? If not get one and read it. I'm making a run to the PO today, if you need one PM me where and I'll ship it today.
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serendipity
Hi Wendy, welcome to the forum!
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manofgod
well please is a nise time to come in contact with you in jesus name
even thuogh i could not come in direct contact with you as concerns what you wrote i still think that yuo still remain the only one that god programed for me to write this evening .in did this is the first time for me to come in contact with man of god in tyhis way .in fact we have been working in the jehovah witness church in cameroon for many years and today i just thoughtb icould go to the net and see if i could do something and by the grace of god i met you and i am sure your stay with me would not be a missfortune to you neither to me nor to god .
please while waiting to here from you i think that i could ask you some questions .
1)who is ruling the war?
2)are you alone "?
3)and finally are you forseing a better future for yoour self ?
here is my addres
location-cameroon
steet-funchastreet
phone-(237)-533-37-84
names-fako ntem
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Wendy_Warden
I am afraid I have next to no idea what you just tried to say... If you could try and say it again I might be able to say something in the way of an answer. But as yhings stand...uh...I can't answer.
Sorry. Your questions also are a bit strange. Would you explain what you're talking about?
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Broken Hearted
I mean, I know how I stand on most of those issues, but what I really want is him to question them himself. I know that the chances of my converting him are slim, but I don't think that giving up is a choice.
Wendy,
I am going though some of the same things you are. I agree with you about not giving up. I also agree with you when you said not to attack the religion. I refuse to do that. I have asked many people including my Baptist missionary aunt and uncle to pray for God to give me the wisdom that is needed. I have been critized for this statement on another thread, but I honestly believe God sent this they guy I have fallen in love with into my life. It is not an option for me to run. My prayer each morning is "God give him the peace he is seeking. Give me the stength and wisdom that is needed."
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Wendy_Warden
Broken Heart,
Thank you! I understand what everyone says about being careful and in most cases I would agree. But in this case we work together and see each other every day. Beside, running away isn't in my character or his. I am counting on that in the area of trying to witness to him. Thanks for your encourgement.
Wendy
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jgnat
OK, girls, good luck to you both. I am a non-JW, regular evangelical Christian, married to a JW. We've known each other six years, married for three. I married for love, but I cannot say I married blindly. I knew what I was getting in to.
I regularly give advice to non-JW's who suddenly find themselves married to a JW by conversion or inheritance, and correspond with ex-JW's who are doing their best to bring their (still JW) around. There is a plan and a process for releasing the bonds of religious fanaticism, but the process is neither short or easy. That's why I don't usually go in to lengthy detail with ladies like yourselves. You still have the choice to walk away. If either of you are planning on having children, I doubt you have the time required to convert these loves in to the man you want AND have a family.
I am not a fan of the regular Christian approach to argue doctrine or orthodoxy. JW's specifically train to refute such concepts, and arguing ideas keeps the fight in the head, not the heart. By painful experience, I can confirm that the head can deceive itself in to all kinds of twisted thinking, if it is motivated enough or fearful enough. All JW's fear death. JW's fear straying from their doctrines because they've been told repeatedly that this path leads to death.
INSTEAD, you must be as sly as foxes and gentle as doves, supporting, questioning, and challenging their FEELINGS. As much as possible, engage the genuine personality within by talking about their past, the qualities in their personality that makes them unique, their genuine self.
IF YOU MUST try converting your partners, read Steve Hassan's "Combatting Cult Mind Control" first. This will keep you from making newbie mistakes that could dramatically reduce your chance of winning over your sweetheart.
I am also a little concerned that you think you HAVE NO CHOICE, and that you are compelled to try and convert the men you are in love with.
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Broken Hearted
All JW's fear death
If they fear death? Then why does it not bother them about not doing all they can when medically necessary to stay alive. The thoughts i am picking up are it is no big deal becasue they will live in paradise here on earth when the times comes?