by jw 73 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
There is no attitude problem here. They are in the wrong, we are CLEARLY doing something right about it or the site wouldn't grow this quick and people like myself wouldn't join.
Then that is where I will have to agree to disagree.
The WTS is not in the wrong they just have some in the Organization that have gone wrong.
Just a few bad apples that is all.
Nothing that can not be made right.
Yes
Take out your songbook, and look it's in there
Dismembered
JW...let me ask.
Your here to 'help'?
If were the people showing hate, what are you doing? you've yet to say something that is kind and at least softens folks attitude to you. The topics you start usually consist of a few lines then you randomly say something about every member here.
You do not know me, you do NOT know what i have learnt and yet you act like you can judge me on that basis (and everyone else).
Who here likes Bin Laden? The WBT Society is the same to us. What they did was wrong and THEY ARE STILL AT LARGE!!
Jw- the jw's are a hate group plain and simple. You may voice your opinion as we also have a right to do. It appears that you don't like anyone else voicing what has already been written by 'god's org'. I always find that quite amazing when jw's are confronted with their own literature they like to dismiss it as if it has no bearing today. Yet there is no corrective 'light' on the matter and so it must still stand as written. Jw's are also at a loss when you ask them about all the damage done to people in the past due to the wt's writings. Until they feel loss of any kind for themself they will continue to spew the hatred put out by the wt, oops I mean their god. Not the God of the bible.
So the wt ends up with people who are willing to speak out to as many as will listen. The horror stories and human wreckage stories then continue on as our friends, families and coworkers can't help but to repeat the unloving nature of this so called 'spirit directed' org. What 'spirits' direct it, one can only guess.
Also the Watchtower Society say avoid the 'apostates' and their 'sites'.
Your welcome here but if your such a dedicated witness why are you here?
Do you believe they are 100% right?
If yes...why UN, 607 and many blunders? Surely God is ahead of them...not the other way around. If God is ahead, he'd reveal enough but not anything confusing. Surely new light would ADD to what you have, not change it.
If no...how can they be God's org?
It appears that you don't like anyone else voicing what has already been written by 'god's org'.
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VOICING YOUR OPINION AND INSULTING < PATRONISING< RIDICULING< BEING INTENTUALLLY CRUEL<etc........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Also the Watchtower Society say avoid the 'apostates' and their 'sites'.
Your welcome here but if your such a dedicated witness why are you here?
Do you believe they are 100% right?
If yes...why UN, 607 and many blunders? Surely God is ahead of them...not the other way around. If God is ahead, he'd reveal enough but not anything confusing. Surely new light would ADD to what you have, not change it.
If no...how can they be God's org?
Answers are in the bible!
that proves they are the chosen org?
surely the MESSAGE was more important than anything.
didn't Jesus say " And many false prophets will arise and mislead many".
The WBT predicted 1914 for the end and other occasions too, its in their own books so what seperates them from any other org that predicts the end and fails. hell i could start my own religion and do a better job just by watching their mistakes and not making them.
jw I am curious about something.
When I was in the processing of exiting this sect back in 1989, I argued with all 9 of the elders in my congregation (White Rock, Dallas Texas) and they sounded similar to you (and other Witnesses). But I asked them a question they could not answer and I've never seen the Society attempt to address it either.
Say you were Joe Israelite and you were a faithful worshiper of Jehovah. But then one of the bad kings comes along and the temple is turned over to the worship of Baal or Morduk (or some other false god). There are no priests, no Levites, no one teaching the Law correctly. There is no organization and no way to travel safely to the temple in Jerusalem without fear of being killed, or having your wife stolen into prostitution or your children kidnapped and burned alive in sacrifice to a false god.
So the question is: What did that faithful Israelite do? How did he (or she) worship Jehovah without an organization? Realize that one could live out their entire life without ever having the organization Jehovah himself set up to show the way. (It was even worse in the 10 tribe kingdom as they went centuries without the 'true' organization teaching them.) Faithful Joe Israelite would have been on his own. Does he show loyalty to Jehovah's organization or does his follow his Bible trained conscience? Jehovah's organization would be telling him (perhaps even on pain of death or being shunned by his family) to do something he knew to be wrong: follow false gods, believe false teachings and perhaps even put his family in physical danger. And yet his conscience would tell him to reject Baal, reject child sacrifice and stay true to Jehovah. But in so doing, isn't that going against Jehovah's organization?
Realize also that this was an organization Jehovah himself created, painstakingly created laws for, and yet it went apostate. The same thing happened again with the organization Jesus set up. It too went apostate. Two organizations created set up and administered by God himself and his Son, both sending prophets and miracles to keep it going and yet both went apostate. And yet somehow THIS organization, the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, is incapable of the same fate? This despite the fact that it is only 'spirit directed', with no prophets, no miracles, no Biblical writings to guide it?
My second question to those elders, and to you if you don't mind me asking, is ... why? Why wouldn't this modern religious sect also go astray? What is so special about it that it can avoid the same fate as ancient Israel and Christianity?
Respectfully,
Chris
PATRONISING< RIDICULING< BEING INTENTUALLLY CRUEL<------Apparently you are unaware of the many times the wt's are exactly all of those things when other churches and people are concerned. Do a minimum of research on your own history and current literature before you throw stones at others.
You didn't find it 'cruel' when a recent issue considered all of us non jw's as bugs, or cockroaches?
Get a grip. People do get angry when their entire families have been ripped away from them due the rules of men, people tend to get a bit testy when their loved ones die due the ungodly rules of men, people get annoyed when elders or any jw who rape and molest children are allowed back not only into the cong but into positions of authority. People may be angry yet, with good cause. There is such a thing as righteous anger. It is not a sin to expose these false prophets for what they are.
