Did anyone experience that feeling at the end of assemblies, or C/O visits?

by dido 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • dido
    dido

    The Listener, i agree with you that i am an emotional person, i admit that, but

    it shows that i do have feelings and am not a cold person, in fact i think passionately about certain issues, ie: the child abuse in the borg! That is the main reason why i would never go back, and think that it can`t be Gods org without any of the other reasons. How do i take this test, Myers-Briggs, as would like to know if i am normal?! I must add that i am not a gushy person at all, and don`t like emotion shown in public. Glad you like the topic, have got loads of things i want to talk about, so watch my space!

  • Mr. Kim
    Mr. Kim

    The feeling you "experienced" was not natural. ----The mind control mist from sincere well spoken dogma. I was always looking for fresh air and the "truth". Damn, I'm still looking!! LOL

  • Brigid
    Brigid

    I don't know if it's been brought up or not but groups can take on their own collective consciousness--as if the group becomes an individual in of itself. I never got that from assemblies but I was on a whole 'nother wavelink. I have experienced it at various churches/synagogues and political functions. You can just tap into the collective consciousness and ride the wave. It is not indigenous of the JW's--it is any group that gets together. Go hang out with an angry mob and your subconscious will pick up anger. Go to a motivational speaker and you will walk away feeling like you can do anything in the world (which you can). Hang out at assemblies and you will probably pick up the vibe of unity (that is, we all dress, talk, walk the same, no individuation allowed--aren't we great?) and "go team" augmented with a heaping plateful of fear and guilt.

    Group think.

    ~Brigid

  • voltaire
    voltaire

    Recent research using MRIs has shown that religion actually produces altered brain states. Tibetan monks are able to achieve identifiable, longterm changes in certain areas of the brain related to cognition that has astounded researchers. What Drew said about feeling a part of something bigger hits the nail on the head. Relgious experience can affect the part of the brain which allows a person to distinguish between the self and everything else, resulting in the sensation of merging with, or becoming one with the universe. I believe Michael Shermer is the scientist leading this research. If you google his name, I assume his books will pop. BTW, you can probably achieve similar brain states with the aid of drugs. Next time, skip the CO visit and smoke peyote.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    there was this `higher` (no i`m not one of the anointed, haha) overwhelming feeling, which i can`t even explain, and no, i`m not a nutcase!

    Stockholm Syndrome.

  • dido
    dido

    Voltaire- i must just clarify this, it was a personal feeling, nothing to do with the euphoria of the crowd, it was nothing to do with the atmosphere, it was just to do with a feeling that i got, like a connection with `god`, if you like? I am not easily influenced by atmospheres or being jollied along by speakers, i contain my own thought and feelings, and i actually felt `alone `at the time.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    it was a personal feeling, nothing to do with the euphoria of the crowd, it was nothing to do with the atmosphere, it was just to do with a feeling that i got, like a connection with `god`, if you like?...........................................i contain my own thought and feelings, and i actually felt `alone `at the time.

    Did you indeed ever have this feeling when you actually were alone?

    If not, then I don't think you can discount the powerful influence of the crowd.

  • dido
    dido

    BizzyBee have you ever heard the saying `alone but in a crowd`? Maybe not feeling that i really belonged there could be more explanatory. I think i was seeing a lot of hypocrsy at the time, and was gradually distancing myself. I always felt left out of everything anyway, didnt have the right social standing,

  • pratt1
    pratt1

    I actually remember seeing people cry from emotion on the last day of the assemblies at Yankee Stadium in the late "60's and early '70's.

    People actually believed the were part of the "Only true religion" and that their salvation was near.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    `alone but in a crowd`? Maybe not feeling that i really belonged there could be more explanatory

    Hmmmm....... dido, you are sending mixed messages. I think we inferred from what you've said that this emotion you felt was an overwhelming spiritual connection at the end of assemblies and special gatherings - which sounds like a positive experience for you. However, now you are saying you felt you didn't really belong there because of the hypocrisy - a negative experience.

    Ques: did you feel connected to the group or apart from them?

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